- Man stuck up chimney
Sadly not santa but some other poor git.
Not too envious of the guy taking the 100m cherry picker up there either tbh 👀Posted 1 month agothegeneralistMember
Inverted – you’re talking a very short time before both his brain and organs start shutting down.
Someone unfortunately is going to have to answer a whole load of questions as to how hes been able to access the climb.
in my completely uneducated view, the only person who should be answering the hard questions is the incident commander who saw an inverted man hanging from the chimney, told the Heli crew to back off and ordered the cherry picker in from a hundred miles away.
Unless he was dead by the time the heli got there, in which case fair enough.Posted 1 month agoavdave2Member
I assume the issue with helicopter was they couldn’t know how well attached he was and the downdraught could have had him falling to the ground or if well attached swinging around at the end of a rope smashing into the chimney.
Very sad story and hugely frustrating and tough for the emergency services having to watch while knowing there was nothing they could do.Posted 1 month agoandy4dSubscriber
In true STW fashion a guy appears to of climbed a chimney unauthorised, got into trouble of his own accord and the emergency services sent to try and rescue him (without killing themselves in the process) are to blame somehow? Go figure.
Sad situation but i dont see why the emergency services have anything to answer.Posted 1 month agojoshvegasMember
in my completely uneducated view
Dicking* about at that height isn’t something you sign your crew** up yo without some sort of safe plan.
Its sad and awful but no matter what way you cut putting more people at risk because of one persons actions drunk or otherwise is not acceptable***
*Dicking about in the sense of “winging it”
**People like Bruneep^
***It might be okay but the risks are high!Posted 1 month ago
n my completely uneducated view, the only person who should be answering the hard questions is the incident commande
Wasnt referring to the emergency services in any way, and the decisions they make are usually born through huge experience and training.
The person/s who are going to be getting it in the neck are anybody involved with the site itself, especially if it was under some kind of construction work. If it is found in anyway to be unsecure etc someone is going to be facing some very serious questioning and even prison time. I presume the place will be crawling with the hse now.
Very sad for all involved, especially if it was some post pub shenanigans.Posted 1 month ago
Why do we need a scapegoat?
I never mentioned anyone being a scapegoat and I’ve always been firmly on the side of “you shouldn’t have been there” but I know fully well how these things work and are investigated.
If hes wandered in easily and hopped on the bottom of the unguarded chimney ladder then someone is going to get grief, if hes scaled a 3m hoarded fence and dismantled barriers to get to the bottom of the ladder then it’s a different matter.
I did read in a local rag type article that he was still alive at 8am as hed communicated via the police drone, if that’s the case its worse than previously thought.
However it ends up it’s a very sad outcome for all involved.Posted 1 month agooutofbreathMember
Technical question: Several people have hinted that hanging upside down kills quicker. Is that true? What’s the mechanism for that? Does exposure kill faster upside down? Or is it something else? (My google-fu was weak on this one.)
If he’s wandered in easily and hopped on the bottom of the unguarded chimney ladder then someone is going to get grief, if hes scaled a 3m hoarded fence and dismantled barriers to get to the bottom of the ladder then it’s a different matter.
From the news last night it sounds closer to the latter than the former.Posted 1 month agowhitestoneMember
@outofbreath – I think (stress *think*) that it’s because the organs in the lower abdomen press onto the diaphragm and lungs when you are inverted and you slowly asphyxiate. There might be something associated with blood flow as well as there aren’t the strong muscles in the neck and head to push the blood back against gravity.
Back when I was climbing if someone had fallen and was unconscious then the first act after checking for broken spine would be to get them upright.Posted 1 month agozilog6128Subscriber
There are always going to be some people who drink way too much and do something stupid. Occasionally someone dies. Unless we as a society have a radical rethink re. our attitude towards alcohol this won’t change. Tbh if a man in his 50s hasn’t learnt how to handle his booze that is a pretty sad reflection of things IMO.Posted 1 month ago
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