Maintenance – single vs multi pivots
My Sub 5 lasted years between needing any bushings and pivots – and when it did, they were cheap and simple to fix.
My only ‘reference’ for multipivots os older Specialized’s that seemed to eat them every few months, and cost a few bob and some time to replace.
How long do multi-pivot’s last compared to single pivot?Posted 9 years agotrailmonkeyMember
IME the FSR design on the Spesh bikes is great for performance but very harsh on bearing/bushing life. My Hemlock is reasonably well adorned with bearings and bushings but I seem to have gotten the best part of 12 months out of a complete set. My single pivot bike ( Scott Strike ) is far less hungry on parts and if I had to make comparisons drawn on my own experiences, then single pivots win out in terms of longevity.Posted 9 years ago
My 04 Stumpy FSR only had 1 full set of bearings in 2000 miles. My Yeti 575 never had them changed in nearly as long, including 350 horrendously wet Welsh miles. Both did 2 or 3 shock bushes too.
Also, don’t buy your bearings form bike suppliers. A Spesh kit of 10 was £45 (2 of one size and 4 each of another 2 sizes) but I got 10 of each for £43 delivered…..Posted 9 years ago
but bushings add up at £12-15 a pop…
Shock bushes are a standard size DU bushing and cost £1 each. I bought a fitting tool and 8 bushes from a guy in the States for about £18, but the Dollar was a lot weaker then…
I’ll have a look-see if he’s still selling themPosted 9 years ago
This is the chap –
http://cgi.ebay.com/1-2-Bushing-Tool-4-Fox-Romic-Cane-Creek-Rock-Shox_W0QQitemZ300288689071QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCycling_Parts_Accessories?hash=item300288689071&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50Posted 9 years agogeetee1972Member
My 2005 Spesh Enduro and has never had any of the bearings replaced and it doesn’t use bushings on the shock.
I think the key here is less about whether you have single pivot or multi pivot and more about how you clean your bike.
Using a high powered jet wash, like you get at most trail centres, will simply destroy any and all bearings if you aim them at the pivots.
The point about frame alignment is well made – poor alignment will increase bearing wear. I can’t see how wear of the bush on the shock eyelet is affected by single/multi pivot.Posted 9 years agoadstickMember
To echo what others have already said, it’s much more to do with quality rather than linkage design. A stiff, well built bike will need fewer bearing changes than a flexy, badly made one. Interupted seat tube designs do go through shock bushes (not pivots) quicker than other designs, but DU bushes are cheap. Often multi pivot cartridge bearing bikes need the bearings serviced rather than changed, and if you look after your bike the bearings ought to last a few years.Posted 9 years agosq225917Member
Stripped the back end on my BLT this weekend, first time in 12 months, 2nd time since i bought it. No noticeable bearing wear at all. Total of 2400miles on it now and it’ has only ever needed the shock bush replacing the once. I only had to repack one bearing this time round….Posted 9 years agorichcMember
Dunno if this helps, but my SO had a Titus Switchblade the alignment was spot on so it needed 1 set of replacement bearings in 3 1/2 years of riding (only bike and it was ridden a lot).
The Spesh’s I had on the other hand, killed bearing in a few months due to the crappy alignment/build quality.Posted 9 years agostuartie_cMember
I’ve got a 3 year old Motolite and I’m thinking I need to do some of the bearing for the second time. The swinglink bearings take a lot of stress and mine are just beginning to show signs of wear after a lot of use (last replaced about a year and a half ago). These are easy to do, but the main bearings and the HL bushings are trickier, though they seem pretty robust and need infrequent attention.
The lower shock bushing needs pretty regular attention (every 4/5 months?) but it’s a 5 minute job.
Great bike.Posted 9 years agoOllyMember
put nice bearings in and treat it right and they should last plenty long enough.
i think the speed of wear will be the same, but obviously your only buying 2 carts, not 10 each time they do go.
but then again, a nice multipivot does do what it does that bit better, so depends on your preferences.Posted 9 years ago
I often wish ide gone for a nice simple SP orange 5 or something, until i get on the trance and wind it up a rocky climb
I know Olly – I borrowed a Brodie Loki and that was the same on technical climbs – where the Sub5 stalled/feedback/was not perfect, the Loki just rolled up it all with much more grip.
Not yet ridden a 5 or Prophet to see if a different pivot location makes a difference…
Seems like if I go the multi-pivot route, a careful choice of stiff, aligned frame is the way to go.Posted 9 years agocoffeekingMember
Just figure out what bearings they are (they’re all standard parts) and order from bearingboys.co.uk, got all the bearings for my NRS for ~ £10. I did do the bearing replacement on the horst links though, which cost me £40 but now will be cheap to replace in future due to cart bearings obviously.
My old single pivot never got any maintenance, at all, ever, until I blew the shock. Ahem.Posted 9 years ago
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