- Macca on vegetarianism
Loads of those animals hanging about on farms etc waiting to die are there cos we choose to eat them. They would not exist or have a life otherwise. They are not there for recreational purposes. I doubt sheep or cows wouldn’t even exist if it was not for humans wanting to munch on them.
To put that in human terms Infanticide is better than an contraception because at least they had a life.
To not be borne is never worse than to be killed.
These threads should be good because, hopefully we can get a full range of opinions without being offensive to each other.
Indeed its amoral choice and you can make whichever one you want and we could have a reasonable debate …it could happen on STW one dayPosted 6 years ago
I will attempt sensible debate and see how short it lasts
Is it not true that cows n sheep n pigs exist only for human consuption?
yes they did not exit till we made them to eat – nt even getting what your point is here tbh
They would be pretty useless at living out in the wild without us humans, they are too daft.
yes it is true farming does indeed require farming
They are species evolved to feed us?
they did not evolve to do this we selectively bred them to do this
I’m not getting your Infanticide comparison.
well if it is better to have a life , even a short one, then killing our young is better than contraception – its your argument just used on humans. It seems to break down quite easily as no one would argue that.
Iirc I read somewhere (probably teh internetz) that chickens would be long extinct if we didn’t eat them.
It would not be extinct it would just never have existed as it comes from red junglefowl – bred for cock fighting not food originallyPosted 6 years agotinybitsMember
I simply don’t see the issue in other people’s food, it’s just not on my radar.Posted 6 years ago
I eat meat, I eat it with almost every meal. Why? I like it, it tasts nicer to me than non meat meals. Also, the simple reason for meat being an every day thing is cost. I can afford it. If I couldn’t, I’d bulk out my with meals with more veggies. I don’t think that’s any different from most.
Vegetarians on a high horse? Well you don’t often hear meat eaters getting radio 4 airtime betraying people for not eating meat…
what I’m saying is, and thanks for being so dismissive, is that if left to their own devices, sheep and cows would be killed out of existence by other species. Their tasty meat exists cos we want it to. You make a couple of good points there however DD. The underlying one me being quite thick 😀Posted 6 years agonealgloverMember
Another person here who doesn’t really care what other people eat.
But for someone to say they are “consistently amazed” that people rely on meat as the main part of a meal, and to suggest that I have a lack of imagination because I choose to do the same, suggests to me that other people care more about it than I do.
(I don’t have a lack of imagination by the way, I regularly imagine I am a Caveman when I am cooking meat on a barbecue, and often imagine I am eating a succulent Kobe Fillet when it’s actually a bit of Chuck on my plate)Posted 6 years ago
to be fair, cows sheep and pigs are expensive, smelly and annoying. If it wasn’t for the fact they’re made of meat and yummy in my tummy they’d be toast as they would just be a “pest/vermin species” to the cereal crops and veg that we would need to feed everyone.
I just want a nice juicy burger.
YOU want the annihilation of entire species.Posted 6 years ago
What I am reading is you dont want to defend your original statement re better to have a life no matter how short.
thanks for being so dismissive
No idea what you consider to be dismissive was it something like this 🙄
calm down Junkyard
left to their own devices, sheep and cows would be killed out of existence by other species
How did they survive long enough for us to use husbandry on them given this?
YOU want the annihilation of entire species.
we will keep a zoo,Posted 6 years ago
just for you
I’d forgotten about the Sweet Sue chicken. That’s such an ace product. For mid-Western Murkans, obviously.Posted 6 years ago
My thoughts mostly go along the lines of:
I quite like meat, but I don’t want to eat it all the time as there’s lots of other nice things to eat out there as well.
Obviously quinoa is now off the menu. 😥
Fish is nice, but not all the time, as is fowl.
**** me Junkyard, you’re impossible. I can’t be arsed. you win
Really there is no point entering in debate if you get cross, dont defend your view then use abuse.
You could consider responding to what i said with counter points that suggest I am wrong in what I have said.
Eat meat dont eat me it is your choice but dont use weak arguments when doing so be it eating or not eating meat. I have heard plenty from both sides.
This made me laugh from one of these threads
Posted 6 years ago
mate. I don’t care either way. I am not cross, I’m just messing about! I just don’t get the whole vegetarianism thing as seriously as you do . That’s me. Obviously each to their own, and it is a moral choice. You have to admit you are an impossible pain though JY! and ANYWAY I said I give up, you are right and I am wrong.Posted 6 years agobuzz-lightyearMember
I prepare and eat food stuffs. I don’t make a great distinction about what source category it is. If it’s edible and tasty, it’s food.
Some folks seem awfully worried about eating animals bred for food when I think the real issue is about animal welfare and humane slaughter.Posted 6 years agobrakesMember
about the most sensible thing said on this thread.Posted 6 years ago
although it still bears no relevance to the OP’s original statement about meat with every meal.
for me, meat provides something that contains the protein I need/ want in a very tasty, affordable, simple and quick to prepare and cook form. I know of nothing that provides these things that isn’t meat. I grew up with 2 vegetarians and whilst they make some great food it takes a lot of time and effort and they are constantly seeking out new things/ ways to cook and eat because things get boring quickly.
That is why, probably 90% of the time, I have meat/ fish with lunch and dinner.
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