Springy with slacker head angle (of course). I dont want a full susser (I dont like how they feel rearwise) and I dont want to pay stoopid-money for a ti frame that I WILL scratch (careless handling etc) or justify the expense.

What is there out there?

one of these for daft long travel

or one of these for ‘smallish’ long travel.

I am of course biased 🙂

others

Cotic BFe
Genesis
Stiffee

the list is endless

I think t’Hora’s already had an Alpine (for about 10 minutes !!)

I don’t think the list is endless if you’re looking for a 140mm plus HT with a ‘springy’ feel.

There are plenty that are currently quoted as being good for 130mm and I guess since all the trail forks have gone up to 140mm, next years will be 140mm compatible.

I’d love to be able to but a 140 or 150mm fork on something like a Cotic soul without it handling ‘oddly’.

If I was in the market (which I’m not), and wasn’t completely happy with my PA (which I am), and had some more money (which I don’t), this would be top pf my shopping list:

Wonder what Brant’s new steel Pigleybop will be like – could tick your slack HA and long travel boxes?

I think t’Hora’s already had an Alpine (for about 10 minutes !!)

Maybe I was hasty? Maybe I kept on thinking full sussers were the longride options?

How heavy is the alpine?
BFe is 5.5lb?
Transition is LUVLY but its over 6lb-going into full susser weight territory..

Just dont want a dull/lump of heavy metal between my legs- some sort of fancing butting, creative thinner tubes where possible and yet strong without being silly-ti money.

My Alpine comes in around 30lb

Just dont want a dull/lump of heavy metal between my legs- some sort of fancing butting, creative thinner tubes where possible and yet strong without being silly-ti money.

Chromag?

some sort of fancing butting, creative thinner tubes where possible and yet strong without being silly-ti money.

you’re describing the blue pig there as far as I can see.

Not mine but there is (or was) a gorgeous Chromag Samurai in Ralphies in Taunton for a grand – looked unused to me and kitted out with Pikes, Hope Pro 3 AM, Sram X0 etc etc

Mine above is 30.8 lbs inc pedals

The frame is about the same a BFe 5.5lbs

and that transition looks the ‘dogs gonads’ and I don’t know why, it just looks right

Hora, I thought you had a Ti 456 ?

😯 🙄

It’s the future…

Asked for the same advice a few weeks ago.
The Mmmbop is the one I’m keeping an eye on, any idea what the travel ‘ideal’ is for one?

any idea what the travel ‘ideal’ is for one?

140mm

Orange Crush should be on your shortlist too IMO.

http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=327444 Fack. too short on travel (possibly) but sweeeeeeeeet no?

There’s a bit of a buzz about Chromag bikes, any idea what sort of price range they fit in to? I know they are supposed to be getting more available over here soon. I am guessing ‘expensive’ will sum it up.

Not sure I’d call in springy but it does ride nice. Triple butted somewhere or other in the frame.

These are my preferences.

daveh, what is it?

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One of these. They really are good. 😀

P7 was what came to my mind

sorry, but NONE of the above are LT hardtail.

now this……….

I laughed. Out loud.

There’s a banshee morphine on there with moto forks somewhere.

Bluepig? When your down there next could you look out for a lost violin?

I was climbing up this afternoon..looked left at a tree and noticed a sign ‘lost, a Violin near Bluepig’. WTF?

daveh, what is it?

Hmmm yeah, the flash was strong with that one. Marin Rocky Ridge.

I think t’Hora’s already had an Alpine (for about 10 minutes !!)

he must have got that 2nd hand as i think mike refused to sell him a frame

I thought he begged, grovelled and promised it was a ‘keeper’ then shortly after, there it was, gone 🙄

MrSmith:

he must have got that 2nd hand as i think mike refused to sell him a frame

*sniggers*

I’ll take that on the chin (not Mike Chin), my chin 😆 8)

I was all ‘steel is real’.

And then I got my Whyte 19.

With Rev U-Turns its a, er, revelation… 😕

Handjob, might even let you have a go on it one day!

Oh FFS I thought you’d owned all long travel hardtails 3 times over already.

PS wanna buy some Pikes to go with that?

No, Oh..

p7 on revs, sweet 😀

Sprog James, thinks his Summer Season is bees knees as an alrounder with alarming down hill ability

Seriously hora, haven’t you owned an Alpine, a Chameleon, an Evil Sovereign and a Ti456 already?

You’ve gone through more long travel hardtails in the last coouple of years than many people have mountainbikes in a decade. Nowt wrong with that, but it might suggest you’re looking for something that they just don’t know how to give you. 🙂