- Long travel FS to hooligan hardtail
Not bike shopping any time soon, but I saw the thread about the Pace RC627 and wondered how such a bike would compare to a FS with similar burly build. It can get rocky around here, so I’d probably fit plus wheels to a hardtail. I wonder if I would be out-and-out slower on a hardtail vs a FS?Posted 4 months agomark90Member
Recently built a burly/hardcore/long travel hardtail to complement my 150 FS. I found I set a few PB’s on some steep trails that I know well. On the proper steep stuff the lack of rear suspension isn’t really a hindrance, similarly on smooth flow trails that you might well pump anyway. On fast rocky or rooty trails the difference is most noticeable in terms of comfort, grip, and speed.Posted 4 months agokayla1Member
On the proper steep stuff the lack of rear suspension isn’t really a hindrance, similarly on smooth flow trails that you might well pump anyway. On fast rocky or rooty trails the difference is most noticeable in terms of comfort, grip, and speed.
That’s what I reckon as well. At the Eastgate DH (bumpy & difficult to pedal on my HT) this year I was faster and ended up racing on a FS (160 front, 140 rear) but had more fun getting my Switchback down in practice. The quickest time overall out of everyone (there was no separate HT category) was set by a fella on an Airdrop Bitmap. Hardtails rock 🙂Posted 4 months agosprockerSubscriber
I have 150mm full sus 29 and a 27.5 hardtail with 2.6 tires and Pikes on. The hardtail is slower for me almost everywhere off road with the gap widening the rougher it gets. Enjoy the hardtail though and ride it lots in winter unless Its on really rocky stuff which is just plain painful. If I had to have one it would be definitely be full suss though.Posted 4 months agooysterkiteSubscriber
I built up a switcback this year with donated parts from a full suss (160 pikes, DT Swiss ex471 rims) and I really enjoy riding it. Did two days at BPW last week and got 23 runs in over two days, I’ve found that the reds there are a sweet spott for me and more fun on a Hardtail. I’ve ridden there a fair bit on my Full Susser and having picked up a few injuries pushing it a bit on the blacks I’m happier being challenged on the reds on a Ht . I also ride Surrey Hills a fair bit and it’s way more fun imho Hardtail with a big fork .I’m keeping the full suss for bike parks and big mountain days when I’m back in France. It’s probably an age thingPosted 4 months agonickcSubscriber
You’d be slower in the bits that need pedalling probs. but unless smashing the strava everytime you’re going out is your defining motive, is that such a bad thing?
160 is the sweet spot for me, not because it adds travel, it’s the counter-intuitive point is that is keep the front up better than a shorter LT fork does, without making the bike too unweidly . a PP Shan with 160 Lyric was a thing of joy.Posted 4 months ago
Interesting nickc, always wanted to try a Shan. I just find anything over 140, on the bikes I’ve ridden, tends to make the front feel more precarious. Think it’s the amount of travel that makes it feel like a bit of a seesaw with the back remaining static. Angle changes a bit too much for my liking.Posted 4 months ago
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