i know there are a few about last fast forward, shand gt, moxie, mondraker( at a push)

what other options are there ?

Orange p7.

Genesis Tarn
Long = tick
Low = tick
Slack = ish
29er = nope, but can take 29er wheels
27.5+ = yep

The pipedream moxie looks really good!

NS Eccentric cromo 29 or 650b plus is all that

Speak to Adam on the link below, Top bikes, Top bloke.
They had a demo this weekend at the FOD and everyone was raving about them.

https://www.reallygoodbikes.co.uk/

+1 NS Eccentric cromo 29″

Here’s mine, really enjoying it so far!

Orange p7 is 650 so wouldn’t work . Any 29 er with boost wheels will be able to be swapped to run 650 plus and any 650 plus can normally run with 29 wheels .

Chameleon.

Ramsey Neil – New Orange P7 is available as 29 too.

Orbea Loki is a 27+ but can take 29.

Any 29 er with boost wheels will be able to be swapped to run 650 plus and any 650 plus can normally run with 29 wheels

Both true up to a point, but it’s not always the case. For instance the sonder transmitter can’t take 29er wheels with a decent tyre on, and many 29ers won’t take a + tyre larger than 2.8, if that matters.

Cotic Rocket Max.

Rickos – the Orange website makes no mention of the P7 being available as a 29er .

Sorry you are correct , I’ve just found it .

I recon a BTR would suit you sir…
If it’s any concelation Amanda is going through the same thought process as i imagine you are on the hardtail front.
Them Geometrons have a lot to answer for. 😆

I recon a BTR would suit you sir…
If it’s any concelation Amanda is going through the same thought process as i imagine you are on the hardtail front.
Them Geometrons have a lot to answer for. 😆
Woooaah x2

That Trillion/Shand prime thing..

cheers folks

singlespeedstu, yes been looking at btr too, very nice but i dont like waiting 🙂
yes mojo have a lot to answer for

You’ll be waiting for me on the ride next weekend. 😐
You’ll not be waiting at the bar though. 🙂

I dont mind waiting on a trail
I have found some extra pedally singletrack for you both

I’ll try and remember to forget my pedals then. 😉

How about an alu-tech cheap trick. Just been launched new model. Reach not quite as aggressive as moxie. Takes 29 and plus wheels. Looks nice. Good quality German company.

that looks interesting howdoo. cheers

That Pipedream Moxie may well just have gone to the top of my n+1 list

Ragley big wig, great bikes.

That Pipedream Moxie may well just have gone to the top of my n+1 list

Ditto. I was holding out for the next delivery of Fast Forwards, but, but, but, but…

In true STW style what about what I have: https://www.instagram.com/p/BZwjHECB9mx/

Very long, very slack, up to 3.0x29er tyres and Ti.

I’ve got a Shan gt but dame those pipe dreams are yummy looking

Forgot about the Nordest Bardino 27+ or 29…Steel or Ti

I’d recommend what I’ve got too. Ghost Roket AL8, comes in 27.5+ but fits 29ers. Pretty long, pretty slack, fairly low, well specified for the cash.

with 29er wheels:
[url=https://flic.kr/p/YfW47K]Sick Bicycles – Gnarcissist Luxe[/url] by Southern Enduro / QECP Trail Collective, on Flickr
[url=https://flic.kr/p/Zh912g]Sick Bicycles – Gnarcissist Luxe[/url] by Southern Enduro / QECP Trail Collective, on Flickr

Wheelbase:1310mm
HA:64deg

that Nordest just jumped way up on my list

Any others to add to the list?

I got Bike shop to weigh a 650b Orange P7 frame medium weighed in excess of 3.1kg!

I got Bike shop to weigh a 650b Orange P7 frame medium weighed in excess of 3.1kg!

For a 6″ travel, steel, 29er? I don’t think you’ll find many (any?) on that list below 3kg!

Dartmoor Primal +
Ran it for a year with 650×3.0 tyres, admitedly not tried it with 29er wheel yet, but loads of clearance.

that Starling Murmur is a thing of beauty… and ticks all your boxes?

Cotic quote 2.54kg for the Bfe and Similar for the Nordest. All similar money so over 600g heavier seems a lot more and shows a cheaper, heavier steel tubing must be being used.

Im still going to bang on about my Norco Torrent7.2   , long with a 660 top tube , 340bb at 650b+ and slack ish at 66o head angle. Running 3.0 or 2.8s atm ,boost all round. I send more time on this than another bike. Its a flyer that often buzzes mates back wheels on the trails

Looks like Dartmoor have discontinued the Primal Plus for 2018, which is a shame. The are some 2017 frames still for sale though.

Love the look of the Hornet but all their models are now limited to 2.8″ tyres.

Love my Primal Plus but am very tempted by that Nordest.

I wish I hadn’t seen that Nordest Bardino Ti! I’m not going to rest til I have one now!