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  • Houns
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    Seen videos of police having to shoot someone, pretty graphic videos on twitter at the moment

    piha
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    The video appears to show a member of the public wrestling with the chap that appeared to get shot!

    Houns
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    Yup, looks like police dragged the bloke off him(?) before shooting him, possible suicide vest?

    Premier Icon kimbers
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    Does seem that terrorist think it will be more destabilising during an election

    Houns
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    Just seen another video, group of people seem to have apprehended the person, one member of public seen carrying knife away from person apprehended, then everyone backs off sharpish

    IHN
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    pretty graphic videos on twitter at the moment

    It baffles me why people think these things need sharing

    Premier Icon pondo
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    Crikey – there were armed police in New Street Station this morning. Not a unique occurrence, but you wonder if there was an awareness that something had been planned.

    Premier Icon v8ninety
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    It baffles me why people think these things need sharing

    There’s an argument that it holds the security services to public account. I’m in two minds on that one.

    Houns
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    Sadly typical responses on twitter blaming Corbyn and immigration! From what I’ve seen you can’t tell the sex of the person let alone race or religion

    Premier Icon matt_outandabout
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    Once more I am reminded that our police and emergency services are putting themselves in harms way to protect others.

    Nothing more to say at the moment, and I am not watching anything on twitter.

    Premier Icon Drac
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    there were armed police in New Street Station this morning. Not a unique occurrence, but you wonder if there was an awareness that something had been planned.

    Most UK cities have an armed presence now, sadly and thankfully.

    P-Jay
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    Yep, I don’t know why I watched them, but I’ve seen 3 videos now of the shooting. It’s barbaric, but shooting people is. What can they do though? Since 7/7 they have to assume that if someone is wearing a very, or even a bulky clothing they’re wearing a bomb.

    I’m not sure if the suspect is dead, seemed to still be moving, but no one is going to help them until they know they’re not a threat, maybe they’ll be left to die.

    It’s a **** up world sometimes.

    jolmes
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    Seems the police at the scene must have had a very valid reason to back off like that (from the videos) and very sharpishly incapacitate the suspect. Pretty sure they wouldn’t have done that if there wasn’t an immediate threat to the public.

    If a bomb vest was suspected then that shot is likely to have been to the head. In which case he is most likely dead. I just hope the police involved don’t endure prolonged suspensions and court.

    What a job they have. To confront danger and then make a swift but considered decision to shoot to kill or hold.

    Ro5ey
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    How many knife incidents in London every day?

    If that was 500 yards south or a mile north would it have been the same result/ news coverage ??

    Normal knife incidents happen all the time round the city, they will get a firearms response as well. It’s just once they suspect it’s terror – it will get escalated massively.

    They don’t usually shoot knife suspects on the ground once they’ve been pinned down either.

    alpin
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    They certainly weren’t f*****about…!

    Premier Icon Drac
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    If that was 500 yards south or a mile north would it have been the same result/ news coverage ??

    If they’d been shot by the police and being treat as a terrorist incident then of course it would.

    Houns
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    Eye witness on bbc news now stating suspect wearing some sort of vest

    mefty
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    Perpetrator was tazered not shot, seems member(s) of the public tackled him, multiple victims reported at least 5

    Premier Icon rogermoore
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    Funny sounding tazer on the video I watched.
    RM.

    Houns
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    Heard two gunshots on the vids I’ve seen (and yes taser used too)

    P-Jay
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    Perpetrator was tazered not shot, seems member(s) of the public tackled him, multiple victims reported at least 5

    Dunno about that, maybe two suspects, I think someone was taken out of a lorry?

    Anyway, in the video I saw there were 3 Police with Rifles drawn, at 1 point an officer points his rifle almost point blank as his face, changes his mind and pulls away a man the suspect is wrestling and there’s two loud bangs.

    Premier Icon Drac
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    Perpetrator was tazered not shot, seems member(s) of the public tackled him, multiple victims reported at least 5

    Met said he was shot. Can we stick with facts please.

    Houns
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    Suspect was wearing hoax explosive device

    mefty
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    Confirmed dead, so presumably shot as well!

    Premier Icon bikebouy
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    Don’t let facts get in the way of a good ol’ argument 🤷‍♂️

    P-Jay
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    These things are always confused when it comes to ‘on the spot reporting’. I don’t suspect mefty was trying to troll or whatever.

    And if you want ‘just the facts’ follow the Met’s twitter feed.

    chewkw
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    Confirmed dead, so presumably shot as well!

    It looks like the knife man was shot by a powerful round of 5.56 (only heard one shot) rather than HK 9mm.

    Definitely no return with 5.56.

    p/s: Police would not shoot unless there is something else that is very dangerous to the public.

    pp/s: I think it was 9mm not 5.56 looking at the video.

    Premier Icon Drac
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    And if you want ‘just the facts’ follow the Met’s twitter feed.

    Thanks for the tip but as a mod I’m asking people don’t speculate, discussion if fine but in the past these threads have got messy due to speculation.

    Yeah tazers don’t make quite that kind of bang and smoke lol.

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    Kudos to the public for tackling him. Very brave and commendable.

    Premier Icon jimdubleyou
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    I work literally 50 metres away.

    Building was locked down, we saw police running on overpass over Lower Thames Street (never good when you police running).

    Heard a couple of shots then about 30-60 seconds later(enough to think, “was that a gunshot?”), heard 5-10 more. Then about 10 seconds later a couple more.

    Not seen videos that go past the first couple of shots.

    Then moved people away from windows, and about 20 mins later we had to evacuate out of the corden.

    chewkw
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    Kudos to the public for tackling him. Very brave and commendable.

    Very brave of them to hold the person down for so long but any wrong move would mean more death judging from the way they disperse …

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    Bravo to the police and those that apprehended the guy imo.
    Family J were at the Tate modern today, fortunately inside at the time.
    Got back from riding, saw the news ,cue rather nervy call to check they are ok.
    (They are) I’m certainly thinking about the innocent folk who are reported as injured.

    Premier Icon Drac
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    Absolutely the pubic were incredible and possibly prevented it from being much worse. Also to emergency services responding, I know my arse would be seriously twitching.

    Premier Icon Cougar
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    Since 7/7 they have to assume that if someone is wearing a very, or even a bulky clothing they’re wearing a bomb.

    It’s a good job no-one’s invented a “dead man’s handle” trigger which activates if a would-be exploder lets go of a switch, or anything. Er, oh.

    How can they be certain in that sort of situation? Is it just the lesser of two likelihoods they act upon?

    Houns
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    Wonder what that white stuff was in the bag the bloke carrying the knife away threw from his pocket

    Premier Icon jimdubleyou
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    How can they be certain in that sort of situation? Is it just the lesser of two likelihoods they act upon?

    As I understand it, orders are to shoot. If you get blown up, unlucky.

    I suspect the electronics in a dead mans trigger are a lot easier to get wrong (for an amateur), and are consequently less common…

    alpin
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    I wondered exactly that…. ^^

    His Friday night pick me up?

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