Liz! Truss!

The conference speech next week is going to be EPIC!

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Dear god! I’ve just put that Newscast on with all her local radio interviews this morning

It’s absolutely fist-chewingly awful. She’s been invisible for 5 whole days and she re-emigres with THAT?

She’s barely sentient. The personality of a damp flannel with the empathy of a breeze block

Listen and cringe

It defies belief that someone so profoundly stupid could possibly have risen without race to be in the position she’s in

I assume she knows how bad she is at public speaking but then why should she actually care if she’s being paid far more to crash the economy than be PM? That isn’t stupid …

I’m still waiting for any convincing answer to why she should actually care if she knows she is either out in a few days or weeks at the best anyway?

She’s toast.

People were already telling their children they couldn’t afford to take them to football practice

People were already taking second jobs and missing time with their children

People were already living out of food banks

People will be going to community warm rooms this winter to keep warm

100k of mortgages are renewed every month
300k before Christmas

This will be the worst winter and Christmas some people have ever known

She’ll be obliterated come spring

The conference speech next week is going to be EPIC!

Assuming she actually turns up!

I’m still waiting for any convincing answer

What is it with people DEMANDING answers to back up others opinions. Often repeatedly if a response isn’t forthcoming rapidly. See it a lot in these threads recently, it really winds me up.

An alternative view of the Tory politician who apparently everyone loves.

It does date back to when was actually an MP though.

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/16/rory-stewart-boris-johnson

What is it with people DEMANDING answers to back up others opinions. Often repeatedly if a response isn’t forthcoming rapidly. See it a lot in these threads recently, it really winds me up.

I mean in general in the wider world not just this thread.

An alternative view of the Tory politician who apparently everyone loves.

Alternative to what? His voting record has already been well discussed.

Listening to that radio performance I’m beginning to think that was the point where satire died.  It’s like Arnold Rimmer has taken charge.

I do wish I’d never bought Rory up now, I only linked that video to highlight the opinions of someone who happened to have worked with her.

He is pretty much an irrelevance right now, we’re all watching Liz and Kwassi bollox the nation up…

I do wish I’d never bought Rory up now, I only linked that video to highlight the opinions of someone who happened to have worked with her.

He is pretty much an irrelevance right now, we’re all watching Liz and Kwassi bollox the nation up…

I linked to it in the mini-budget thread… However I totally agree. The point was simply the opinion of someone who’d worked with her.

What a brilliant idea it was to ask a couple of thousand elderly retirees in Bournemouth to choose the next PM.

What a brilliant idea it was to ask a couple of thousand elderly retirees in Bournemouth to choose the next PM.

Well KK is planning on bringing back the triple lock so those pensioners will no doubt be pleased.

I do wish I’d never bought Rory up now, I only linked that video to highlight the opinions of someone who happened to have worked with her.

He is pretty much an irrelevance right now, we’re all watching Liz and Kwassi bollox the nation up…

Pointing out that not all Tory politicians are the same and some have very different priorities is a perfectly valid point. It is in fact a point which I have repeatedly made on here and have been castigated for it.

According to some all Tories are equally evil and if you suggest that some are better than others then that practically makes you a Tory, apparently. I personally preferred Boris Johnson to every one of the Tory contenders to replace him.

So yeah, Rory Stewart might well represent a more palatable Tory when compared to some other Tories but unless you believe that the problem isn’t the Tory government but who leads it (a perfectly valid opinion imo) then Stewart isn’t the solution.

I think emphasising that Stewart was a Tory MP who behaved as you would expect a Tory MP to behave is a reasonable point to make.

Well KK is planning on bringing back the triple lock so those pensioners will no doubt be pleased.

If only the fully understood how close kk/truss came to blowing up their pension funds

Tho I think this lie by Truss could cause a LOT of pain of people think their total bills are capped

Liz Truss repeatedly told the BBC that energy bills are capped at £2,500. They are not.

This figure is based on what a “typical” household with average use will pay. It is *not* the maximum amount any household will pay. pic.twitter.com/uQu8GXIxif

— Full Fact (@FullFact) September 29, 2022

Latest youguv poll has labour on a 33 point lead over tories, it’d be more humane to lead the truss/kwasi group out the back and just shoot them in the head than watch them squirm

Latest youguv poll has labour on a 33 point lead over tories,

Is there a link for that poll?

The latest poll I can find is a Redfield and Wilton poll which gives Labour a 17% lead.

Issue 51

Westminster voting intention:

LAB: 54% (+9)
CON: 21% (-7)
LDEM: 7% (-2)
GRN: 6% (-1)

via @YouGov, 28 – 29 Sep
Chgs. w/ 25 Sephttps://t.co/QFziTkP77K

— Britain Elects (@BritainElects) September 29, 2022

Thanks

It’s only been one poll but she can’t be looking forward to conference.

I think she’ll come down with a dose of covid before the conference and we’ll see a wooden spoon take her place,

Don’t worry Liz

Survation looks better*

Westminster voting intention:

LAB: 49% (+6)
CON: 28% (-5)
LDEM: 11% (-)

via @Survation

— Britain Elects (@BritainElects) September 29, 2022

*Well relative to yougov

I see that Survation have just released a poll which gave Labour a 21% lead.

It put Labour on 49% which when compared with YouGov’s 54% suggests that roughly half of voters are currently backing Labour.

YouGov is very bad for the LibDems imo although when they get round to having their conference they will no doubt receive a bounce.

Wow at that poll. Thats tories down to rump and a massive majority for labour territory is it not?

Snp got 95% of the scots seats on less than that albeit with 3 other parties splitting the non snp vote equally

That’s the equivalent of the Conservatives only getting 69 seats and labour getting over 400

Can’t Charlie Windsor call a general election right now?

Surely he must have some constitutional powers to act when the UK is facing a political crisis?

2 tory 500 labour on that poll

🤔😮🤣👌👍

‘I was a Tory MP, but Truss and Kwarteng have convinced me to vote Labour’ | Nick Boles

The only good Tory is a defeated or defected Tory.

Maybe so. But you have to wonder how many current Tory MPs are having more than second thoughts right now about keeping quiet over policies they didn’t really want… all for the greater good of keeping their party in power to deliver… to deliver what?!? There must be some thinking of walking at the next election now. Wish they’d speak up. What are they saying to their constituents? Or are they all hiding…?

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What a brilliant idea it was to ask a couple of thousand elderly retirees in Bournemouth to choose the next PM.

Not really far off the mark…. though the big difference over them voting in Boris is he had the confidence of enough MP’s that they would keep their jobs at the next election if he did become leader. [Which proved true – as if nothing else as a Tory MP he had a good record of winning campaigns]

The other big difference is I think Boris expected to be in the position for some time… frankly he ended up done for due to an almost unexpected lie after all the others he’d got away with. His other notable skill was getting away with lying and he practically made it into a joke. Millions of voters must have thought it amusing or made excuses or ???? Essentially Boris had and expected to have plenty of time to feather his nest

I find it hard to believe Truss expected to keep the job for longer than weeks, certainly not months or to the next election ?
She is almost singularly ill equipped .. anyone watching her public speaking or in debates can see that. She looked a complete mess even in the Tory conference… Roy Hattersley looked better on Have I got News and he was represented by a tub of lard. OK.. but not much of an exaggeration she’s THAT bad at speaking.

I don’t think she’s thick.. just really really bad at public speaking, the Tory MP’s all know she’s not a vote winner … so she wouldn’t need to refurbish the flat or indeed do anything except grab as many feathers for her nest as quickly as possible.

Defeated, defected, or deceased.

That’s the equivalent of the Conservatives only getting 69 seats and labour getting over 400

Unless they’ve released the source data that’s hard to extrapolate? Could be a lot of marginal seats swinging, or a handful of strongholds.

What a brilliant idea it was to ask a couple of thousand elderly retirees in Bournemouth to choose the next PM.

TBH this is a massive benefit to having an elected president, you get the person you voted for, for the full term, unless they get impeached or die, with the caveat that you need mid term elections for the parliament as a check on their power/policies).

If those results translated into the election plus the level of tactical voting you know will happen there wouldn’t be many blue mp’s.
Would be nice to be rid of the dinosaurs that reside in massively safe seats

Imagine heading into your party conference having just seen a 17 point swing to the opposition & seeing your party poll its lowest ever

Having spent a week saying you won’t reverse the policy that did it

Also

Westminster Voting Intention:

LAB: 48% (+4)
CON: 29% (-2)
LDM: 9% (-3)

Via @DeltapollUK, 27-29 Sep.
Changes w/ 22-25 Sep.

— Election Maps UK (@ElectionMapsUK) September 29, 2022

Ahahahhaha!

BREAKING

Labour have a 33 POINT LEAD with YouGov/Times

Yes, 33. THIRTY-THREE POINTS

Lab: 54 (+9)
Con: 21 (-7)
Lib: 7 (-2)
Green: 6 (-1)
Ref: 4 (+1)

Fieldwork: Today and yesterdayhttps://t.co/1V4ZOH7Qc2

— Henry Zeffman (@hzeffman) September 29, 2022

It will be very approximate as the numbets i saw were but with fptp as you approach 50% you start winning huge numbers of seats and below 25% you only get a handful.

Its similar numbers to the scottish snp landslide

That’s today, there’s people who haven’t twigged exactly how bad this will be for themselves yet. Those numbers will get worse before they get better

What *That* YouGov poll could look like in a General Election:

LAB: 498 (+296)
CON: 61 (-304)
SNP: 36 (-12)
LDM: 29 (+18)
PLC: 4 (=)
Others: 2 (+2)
GRN: 1 (=)

NI: 18

Labour Majority of 346 pic.twitter.com/E2cXu5LNAo

— Election Maps UK (@ElectionMapsUK) September 29, 2022

Good for snp, good for labour, bad for a united Britain,

What’s funny is that all day & right up until 3polls came out at once giving labour a 25 PT average lead

Truss &; KK were insisting they won’t back down…. Let’s see how long that holds

Good for snp

To lose 12 seats? Why?

You know that point in cartoons where the villain has run off the cliff, the legs are still spinning but the unavoidable fall hasn’t kicked in, that’s Truss and Kwartang.