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  • Liz! Truss!
  • gobuchul
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    Short term pain for long term gain.

    I hope this is correct.

    However, the damage they seem to be doing in the short term is massive and may take a long, long time to fix.

    Even with this energy cap there are going to be a lot of businesses struggling and going under this winter.

    jekkyl
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    You can make your point without being insulting binners. 🙂

    tjagain
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    One thing I am enjoying is my pondering on what is going thru trusses head now that her fantasy has been soundly destoyed the first time it hit reality.

    That must hurt.

    nickc
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    Cameron was probably the most corrupt of them

    I will bet money that in 75-100 years time when kids are studying this part of our history in school , Cameron and May will be bit players that are dull and hard to get excited about and Johnson will be seen as the protagonist, solely because he’s the sort of character that is memorable. His blunders are larger than life, his misrule more egregious than others, the fact that he’s the only sitting PM to have been charged with a crime will be pub-quiz question for years to come. Cameron may have done the damage, Johnson will carry the rap in popular history.

    ernielynch
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    She’s a bit conspicuous by her absence right now isn’t she? What’s she up to?

    Truss appears to have left the public role of Prime Minister to Kwarteng. It is left to him to make public announcements that have absolutely nothing to do with his brief as Chancellor of the Exchequer.

    Firstly he announced that easing of onshore wind farms rules which reasonably would be expected to be in the briefs of either the cabinet ministers responsible for environmental or energy. And more recently he has announced further restrictions on trade unions which is an area that is generally covered in the brief of an employment/work and pensions minister:

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/chancellor-kwasi-kwarteng-trade-unions-strikes-harder-b1027694.html

    The Chancellor of the Exchequer appears to be running the show at the moment. I have no idea why, especially as his department can hardly claim to have too work to get on with.

    ernielynch
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    My understanding is that under tory party rules she is safe from a challenge for a year.

    That really isn’t a problem, the Tory Party simply change the rules concerning how their leader is chosen to suit the circumstances.

    Labour does the same – their last few leaders have been chosen under quite different rules.

    Kryton57
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    I noted this morning it’s seems you cannot get a mortgage below 5% from the major lenders who have revised thier mortgage offers. Even Nationwides 5 & 10 years are at the same 5.5% that the 2yr is. The best they have is year 1 at 3.5% then moving to 5.1 on a 2 year which I think is a good indication of where we all think the rates are going.

    franksinatra
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    She’s a bit conspicuous by her absence right now isn’t she? What’s she up to?

    My money would be on her being in Ukraine for Boris style photo op.

    mrmonkfinger
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    The Chancellor of the Exchequer appears to be running the show at the moment. I have no idea why, especially as his department can hardly claim to have too work to get on with.

    And what a fine job he is doing.

    ernielynch
    Free Member

    You could have put the missing word in my quote! 😟

    Klunk
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    it’s all a cunning plan, hide and make it look like Keir Starmer is the PM.

    molgrips
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    In fairness she did explicitly say she’d hit the ground as soon as she became PM.

    tjagain
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    I do wonder how her mental health is today.

    I don’t see her as having the psychopath tendencies of many senior tories so the impact of getting the top job, implementing her plans that she has been dreaming of for a decade and finding they are an unmitigated disaster might be quite savage.

    Sitting in a corner rocking with a bottle of gin?

    razorrazoo
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    In fairness she did explicitly say she’d hit the ground as soon as she became PM.

    If she was part of Putin’s administration I’d imagine she’d have done just this after an unfortunate 5th floor balcony incident.

    nickc
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    She did say that she was “prepared to make the unpopular decisions”

    scruff9252
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    I do wonder how her mental health is today.

    I don’t see her as having the psychopath tendencies of many senior tories so the impact of getting the top job, implementing her plans that she has been dreaming of for a decade and finding they are an unmitigated disaster might be quite savage.

    Sitting in a corner rocking with a bottle of gin?

    Alternatively she’s still rocking at the coke and caviar party being held in the city

    gobuchul
    Free Member

    Do you think she will ignore all this and not make any statement until the conference next week?

    The speeches could be interesting if the pound sinks further.

    molgrips
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    I just had a thought (prompted by a Guardian comment). This is a great opportunity for Tories that aren’t Truss and Kwarteng to boost their electability by being outspoken critics. Which could be disingenuous, but it might actually work to raise the tone of politics overall, in the long run. A sort of McCarthy/Welch moment.

    nickc
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    Do you think she will ignore all this

    I’ve read that “People who know her” have said that she doesn’t suffer crisis of confidence once she made up her mind about something. So yeah, I think she’s just ignoring it all.

    pk13
    Full Member

    I’ve just been looking at euro and world news not a single one showed any positive news about her.
    The UK news is as we know negative.
    My Tory MP got an email this morning from me.
    The woman is dangerous and incompetent.

    tjagain
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    Nickc. That why i suspect this failure might be devastating for her. Shaken her whole world view. If she were psychopathic she coukd ignore it like trump and johnson but thats not how i read her. Once she breaks it will be spectacular

    Just a thought

    jp-t853
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    I see she has found the time to speak to Zelenskiy today and he was kind enough to tweet about it. Keeps her in the public eye without having to answer any questions.

    cookeaa
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    Nickc. That why i suspect this failure might be devastating for her. Shaken her whole world view. If she were psychopathic she coukd ignore it like trump and johnson but thats not how i read her. Once she breaks it will be spectacular

    Just a thought

    I have to say I’m in a world of not caring really about Liz Truss’s mental wellbeing now. She wanted the Job and should know better than to expect any sympathy when she’s just sacrificed our economy on the alter of her own blind ambition.

    She’s presiding over plenty of damage to other people’s mental and financial health within a couple of weeks of taking office. TBH conforming to the mental image I had already assembled of her as a vain, self-interested, over-confident and ultimately incompetent leader chosen by a handful of out of touch old duffers themselves driven primarily by spite and greed…

    tjagain
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    Oh i dont feel sorry for her at all.

    mrchrispy
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    **** her and the Tory horse she rode in on

    zippykona
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    **** her WITH the Tory horse she rode in on.

    pk13
    Full Member

    What’s the horse done to upset you.

    hatter
    Full Member

    Genuinely wouldn’t be surprised if she pops up in Kyiv with her arm around Zelensky in the next 24 hours.

    The desperation is palpable.

    cookeaa
    Full Member

    What’s the horse done to upset you.

    Missed a golden opportunity to trample Matt Hancock? Bloody Tory Horse!

    pk13
    Full Member

    Never did truss horses it’s the eyes

    shermer75
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    #Trussterfuck is currently trending on Twitter

    shermer75
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    cookeaa
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    Genuinely wouldn’t be surprised if she pops up in Kyiv with her arm around Zelensky in the next 24 hours.

    What hoping his good luck will rub off on her?

    Also I don’t think he’s too keen on people that take over countries based on dodgy votes right now…

    shermer75
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    mrhoppy
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    jonnyboi
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    Missus and I have both agreed that BoJo would be better than this. FML

    cookeaa
    Full Member

    Rory burning some more bridges and being a bit candid about the PM’s character:

    I honestly question if Lizzy will make Christmas TBH.

    kimbers
    Full Member

    Surprised 🙄

    butcher
    Full Member

    Rory Stewart is quite likeable. I highly recommend The Rest is Politics podcast with him and Alistair Campbell. They’re both highly critical of the current government but with both of them there’s a bit of balance and good thoughtful conversation.

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