Liz! Truss!

Please, please, please let this go to court

and please, please, please choose me for jury duty for that trial.

I am looking forward towards the Free Speech Union offering to support Starmer against her. I mean thats what they stand for, right?

Last year and the start of this year have been bloody awful. I need something to smile about.

Please, please, please let this go to court

Maybe we could have a whip round or gofundme to support her legal action, just for the joy of seeing her laughed out of court.

Sometimes I think there should be some sort of process where if someone makes spurious legal threats they should be forced to follow through with it, with appropriate consequences. Totally impractical of course but this sort of thing is really shitty, this particular case is funny of course but it happens every day, often to people who can’t afford lawyers so even a completely meaningless threat can be crushing. There ought to be consequences and they ought to be easy to bring.

If ever there was a time to respond to Lizzy’s solicitors with, ‘I refer you to Arkell vs Pressdram’ it’s now.

Sometimes I think there should be some sort of process where if someone makes spurious legal threats they should be forced to follow through with it, with appropriate consequences. Totally impractical of course but this sort of thing is really shitty, this particular case is funny of course but it happens every day, often to people who can’t afford lawyers so even a completely meaningless threat can be crushing. There ought to be consequences and they ought to be easy to bring.

Unfortunately you have to let them file a court case against you, in order for you to have it thrown out.

The best reply to that is to call the bluff and simply reply…”see you in court, then?”.

Threatening to sue someone is almost and admission that you have no case…if you did, you wouldn’t be making threats, you’d just do it.

Has she and kamikaze been struck off from the FCA?

Has she and kamikaze been struck off from the FCA?

Truss is certainly not named.. as an individual, anyway, maybe she’s using a shell company?

https://register.fca.org.uk/s/search?q=truss&type=Individuals

Sometimes I think there should be some sort of process where if someone makes spurious legal threats they should be forced to follow through with it, with appropriate consequences. Totally impractical of course but this sort of thing is really shitty, this particular case is funny of course but it happens every day, often to people who can’t afford lawyers so even a completely meaningless threat can be crushing. There ought to be consequences and they ought to be easy to bring.

The thing is,

Well, it’s politics. It’s “post-truth” embodied. Facts don’t matter, it’s obviously never going to see a courtroom; what matters is that the message gets out.

It’s little different from the likes of the Daily Mail running headlines like “DO KIT-KATS CAUSE LEPROSY?” The answer is blatantly “no” but we’re suddenly thrust into this Jamie and the Magic Torch-esque Cuckoo Land where Nestlé find themselves having to defend themselves and the very people targeted by this misinformation are shouting “well, can you prove they don’t?”

The fact that Temu Thatcher has called for a retraction is sufficient evidence for the hard of thinking to believe that the accusations are invalid, because that’s what they wanted to believe anyway. Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice…

Saw her missive referred to as “lettuce before action” which I found amusing.

She. Is. A. Disgrace.

Maybe we could have a whip round or gofundme to support her legal action, just for the joy of seeing her laughed out of court.

I wouldn’t worry about that. Someone would fund it because…

The thing is,

Well, it’s politics. It’s “post-truth” embodied. Facts don’t matter, it’s obviously never going to see a courtroom; what matters is that the message gets out.

Cougar gets it. And it is something I’ve been banging on about for a while on various threads.

It simply doesn’t matter to the likes of Truss and her backers.

The ‘message’ is out there.

Even if it ends like ‘A Few Good Men’ and Starmer is shouting at her “Did you deliberately crash the economy to give your mates a payout?” and she finally yells back “YOU’RE GODDAMNED RIGHT I DID”…

There’s still a good few million people in the UK and US who are so far down the rabbithole that they’d be able to convince themselves it was all ‘the establishment’.

Post-truth is a phrase that has gone out of vogue. But it describes perfectly the post-2016 era of politics in the US and UK, as well as probably many others.

The ‘message’ is out there.

Absolutely, that’s the point. The current SM generation won’t be able to find where and what they read 3 years ago on InstXwitterbook.

In four years time a whole new cohort will be eligible to vote

I get the ‘message’ angle, but if you tell pretty much anyone that she’s suing starmer because he said she crashed the economy is universally, across the spectrum (of my largely right leaning office it must be said) is ‘but she did?’

The fact that Temu Thatcher has called for a retraction is sufficient evidence for the hard of thinking to believe that the accusations are invalid,

Not necessarily. Its equally likely to have people think “so why is she needing to deny something which is false”? which all good dubious campaigning types know is useful. Set up a leading/loaded question that your opponent has to deny and you get into peoples head they are guilty.

The Daily Star front page has gone for it, basically challenging her to sue them.

Thick Lizzy & Chemikazhi’s budget wiped 20% of the value of my meager stocks & shares ISA.

That felt like a crash to me.

Thick Lizzy has written more books than she’s read.

The Daily Mash suggests Truss might be sued by a lettuce for deformation.

Bluesky has a whole thread of Gilbert & Sullivan inspired lyrics on this. It’s brilliantly done!

Challenge accepted!?I am the very model of a modern crashed economy I've underperformed vegetables like lettuces and broccoli I know the cheese of England, and I want a Keir apology From pork markets to pensions too, my life is tragicomedy

— Steve Peers (@stevepeers.bsky.social) 2025-01-10T09:15:42.848Z

The Daily Mash suggests Truss might be sued by a lettuce for deformation.

She’s got very bent out of shape about it.

Bluesky has a whole thread of Gilbert & Sullivan inspired lyrics on this. It’s brilliantly done!

Very good but

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Post-truth is a phrase that has gone out of vogue. But it describes perfectly the post-2016 era of politics in the US and UK, as well as probably many others.

I have a memory of (The Spectator I think) coining the phrase post-truth to describe Jeremy Hunt’s antics against the Junior Doctors, whilst Trump was still just a twinkle in Putin’s eye.

Amazing to think he’s still out there and almost statesmanlike looking by modern Tory standards!

I see she accused Brown of crashing the economy back in the day, which should sink her suit if none of the other 47 reasons do.

Very good but

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That’s the quoted post – it said something about “this has the makings of a Gilbert & Sullivan play about it” (in reference to the legal case stuff).

So Steve Peers quoted it and created the lyrics which you can see. The quoted post is locked from being linked to.

Neither I nor STW are breaking any copyright or anything by linking to Steve’s post and whoever wrote what was quoted is protected by the restrictions they put on their own account.

Damage here reputation? FFS.

She wasn’t just rubbish at being the PM I once worked with C&W where she was one of the finance directors, she excelled at being crappy there too.

These people! Just because they seemingly have high qualifications, it doesn’t mean they are competent at anything, at all. Surely there’s a door somewhere that needs to be kept open by her? useless twit…

JeZ

I think folks like Gove, Johnson, Truss, Kwarteng don’t really need to additional help of cocaine to make them overconfident in their own abilities, I think they manage that all by themselves. It’s indicative I think of that era in our politics is that it was staffed by politicians who believed their own hype and that by just the force of their personality they could change reality to suit their needs.

That’s always been the case, grammar school, university, (Oxbridge, naturally), job in law/politics, job in government…

It’s always been that way. They never have an actual job that brings them into contact with normal people, or where mistakes have real-world consequences that actually bite them in the ass.

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I’ve just tapped on the Steve Peers Bluesky post above, which has taken me nicely to Bluesky, where later I’ll sit with a nice single malt and laugh hysterically at the various verses. Thanks for sharing!

Cougar2
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The thing is,

Well, it’s politics. It’s “post-truth” embodied. Facts don’t matter, it’s obviously never going to see a courtroom; what matters is that the message gets out.

Well that’s pretty much the point, isn’t it. There’s no real consequence to it, and there should be. As long as we make it easier and safer to make a false claim than it is to fight it, it’s going to get worse. It has to be easier and cheaper to slap it down than it is to do it. At the very least law firms should know that a vexatious threat can bite them back- there’s no protection against a Truss saying “I will sue you” but steps could be taken to make sure that no lawyer will touch it.

I have a memory of (The Spectator I think) coining the phrase post-truth to describe Jeremy Hunt’s antics against the Junior Doctors, whilst Trump was still just a twinkle in Putin’s eye.

Amazing to think he’s still out there and almost statesmanlike looking by modern Tory standards!

Quite. But that’s how quick things can change when political opportunists realise something as fundamental as truth is not actually sacrosanct.

A few years ago I seem to remember a winner in a libel case being awarded 1p as they were deemed to have no reputation to be damaged

I’m amazed it took this long…

Kemi Badenoch ‘wants Liz Truss to shut up for a while’

Referring to Truss’s letter to Starmer, they added: “It was absurd. I think she’s gone nuts.”

You think?

I’m amazed it took this long…

Indeed – but you get the feeling that ol’ Liz is a rogue player now, out for herself at all costs.

Will she be threatening Kemi with letters on headed paper for calling it her economic legacy now?

Anyone know how to insert the popcorn gif these days?