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  • Liz! Truss!
  • tjagain
    Full Member

    LOLz

    binners
    Full Member

    martinhutch
    Full Member

    The grassroots of the party elected her leader, not Sunak, and it’s clear that is still their position. It’s now clear to any would-be leaders that they now have to position themselves economically to be the ‘heir to Truss’. It’s the definition of insanity.

    intheborders
    Free Member

    Tory grassroutes, like my neighbour.  When questioning the SNP poster I’d had erected on our frontage, really questioning.

    Me – So you’re voting Tory?

    Them – Of course I am.

    Me – Do you trust Johnson?

    Them – No (laughing), of course not.

    Me – Oh, so you’re voting for someone you don’t trust to be PM?

    They turned and walked away.

    slowpuncheur
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    Has there ever been anyone so unself-consious as that women? Her gawping smile desperate for approval after she delivers some more off-the-top-of-the-head playschool policy? Her speech was properly mad. I won’t pretend to understand how dire the economic and social consequences of such unfunded tax-cuts would be on a nation already on its knees but I know a bit about housing and planning.

    She has suggested we should build 500,000 homes per year. Before interest rate jumped and people had to stop buying bread so they could pay their mortgages or rent, England built just over 250k per annum. That was the post-Covid bounce period before things like Nationally Described Space Standards, Biodiversity Net Gain and the (also now cancelled) Nutrient Neutrality policies made securing planning consents even harder.

    I wonder how she thinks we can double the number of new homes? Flats only? Micro-houses? Maybe we could use the fractured rock cavities we have exposed from fracking?

    I can be sure of one thing though. No Tory will propose touching the Green Belt. Like the holes in your own belt, Green Belts needs to be reviewed every so often (15 years at present). We need a proper national conversation on the subject but no-one on any side is ever going to. Instead they repeat the tired matra of building on brownfield land. Again and again and again.

    I haven’t even mentioned the lack of resources, skilled tradesmen and even housebuilders that would all be structural barriers.

    I honestly dont know who advises her or whether, like Alan Partridge pleading with Tony Hayers for a second series, she’s just grasping at straws. There’s more chance of monkeys playing tennis than building half a million homes per year.

    mrmonkfinger
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    Isn’t the mad hatter employed by an American right wing funded “think tank” these days?

    scuttler
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    Some of this lot at least come across as free-but-hard-of-thinking whereas she’s an empty sock puppet. It’s obvious none of these ideas are emanating from her empty skull.

    binners
    Full Member

    They probably convinced her that she’d thought of them herself. The kind of thing a teacher might pull with a particularly dim, primary age child

    Poopscoop
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    She’s absolutely unhinged.

    Another cretin unleashed to cause chaos by the madness of Brexit.

    Caher
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    If I was Trump I wouldn’t see that as a positive, like getting financial advice from kwasi kwarteng.

    Poopscoop
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    He likely sees her as a disruptor and thinks that’s great and that she is great.

    I think she *is* a a disruptor but not in a good way! 😁

    CountZero
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    whereas she’s an empty sock puppet

    I thought she reminded me of someone!

    oldnpastit
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    There must be conservative leadership in the US that is once again bold enough to call out hostile regimes as evil and a threat.”

    Good for her to go and say that to the Republicans. All the MAGA Republicans are pro-Putin and doing their best to undermine support for UKR.

    kelvin
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    You make a good point.

    ratherbeintobago
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    Resignation honours list finally published – one new peer for each day and a half she was in office. If this seems as wrong to you as it does to me, there’s an ERS petition.

    I’d write to my MP if he wasn’t a (doomed come the election) Tory sock puppet.

    binners
    Full Member

    More totally shameless croneyism?

    What a surprise.

    As John Crace just tweeted: imagine the embarrassment of accepting an honour from Liz Truss, knowing that everyone will be laughing at you for the rest of your life

    AD
    Full Member

    At least the ERS petition seems to be getting quite a few signatures (and yes – I know it probably won’t make any difference!)

    argee
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    So a fair few on Truss’ list and also the likes of Tim Martin (wetherspoons boss) seem to be honouring those who brought us Brexit, so the most embarrassing failure of a UK Prime Minister in all of history, has given honours to those who brought us the most embarrassing failure for the UK, this has to be the deaths knell for honours, it’s not even funny anymore.

    kelvin
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    Time for an elected second chamber.

    These new appointees to the House of Lords pour petrol on the already burning shit of recent years.

    Matthew Elliot in parliament? Put his name to the people… let’s take control.

    ernielynch
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    I’d write to my MP if he wasn’t a (doomed come the election) Tory sock puppet.

    I wouldn’t worry, Truss has just helped to even further discredit the whole the archaic nonsense which an incoming Labour government will abolish. And it won’t come too soon.

    https://www.itv.com/news/2022-12-05/labour-would-abolish-indefensible-house-of-lords-pledges-starmer

    Caher
    Full Member

    Someone wrote on Twitter/X that the Truss honour should always have an asterisk against it.

    Flaperon
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    Looks like an absolute bargain though, £50,000 for a seat in the Lords. Surprised it’s not on MoneySavingExpert.

    ratherbeintobago
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    @AD It might, it might not. If it gets a decent number of signatures then it might focus a few Labour Party minds that this stuff matters?

    dissonance
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    one new peer for each day and a half she was in office.

    She “only” nominated three peers. The rest are various other awards.
    Still impressive considering how many of those days in office she wasnt allowed to break anything due to the mourning period.

    binners
    Full Member

    Yeah, you kind of forget that. 49 days is the headline figure for her time in number 10, but most of that time she wasn’t actually ‘in office’ after she Killed the Queen

    Has anyone done the maths on how many tens of billions of pounds she cost the economy, per day, while actually ‘in power’?

    And there are still a number of Tory MPs who are so unhinged, they would actually put her back in number 10 in a heartbeat.

    crazy-legs
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    She “only” nominated three peers. The rest are various other awards.

    Brexit: we need to take back control from the unelected elites!

    Post-Brexit: thanks for supporting me and Brexit, have a seat as an unelected elite!

    martinhutch
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    A damehood for someone who served as a junior minister for a month. A normal person would be too ashamed to accept.

    jamesco
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    Don’t know about the economy overall but the absolute plummet in my pension investment coincided perfectly with her time in post and it’s only now starting to claw it’s way back , and very slowly at that. I’ll be lucky to get back to parity in another two years at best.

    FB-ATB
    Full Member

    Nothing for Kwasi then?

    martinhutch
    Full Member

    Well she did throw him under the bus as soon as it became politically expedient, so there’s that.

    binners
    Full Member

    And the most annoying thing about that is that there’s not a shred of contrition or humility. Quite the opposite. She’s out there, chock full of entitlement and totally devoid of self-awareness telling anyone who’ll listen how she was right all along.

    I can’t work out if she’s in some state of denial or she’s just genuinely so ****ing thick she actually still believes this rubbish her Tufton Street paymasters spout?

    It’s both, isn’t it?

    coconut
    Free Member

    It’s both Binners… that and the raving mad cows disease she has.

    kelvin
    Full Member

    Been spending time with the older (Conservative) generation down in Cornwall, she came up in conversation a lot… several of them having met her and sat by her at meals… one even worked with her… all before she was PM… not a single one had a kind word for her… all said she understood absolutely nothing on any issue that came up… and blanked anyone who hid or didn’t have power within the party. Those with a legal background the most scathing.

    maccruiskeen
    Full Member

    Nothing for Kwasi then?

    who?

    jamesco
    Full Member

    ha ha, very good

    chrismac
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    Let’s hope starmer does something about the HoL. I’m not going to hold my breath. Once he is in power he might see being able to stuff coronies in an advantage 

    ratherbeintobago
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    @chrismac It’s not like we’ve not been burnt by Lab before on constitutional stuff – they made a manifesto commitment in ‘97 to introduce fair votes, then rolled it back as soon as they won a landslide on FPTP.

    crazy-legs
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    FOI request asking for cost details of the numerous long-distance flights that Truss took in her short lived time as PM and as Foreign Sec before that…

    https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-liz-truss-massive-flight-food-booze-bill-revealed-australia-foi/

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