what length nips are people using? Is 12 long enough? Seems just long enough to me.

I’d always use 12s.

Got a flat in mine last weekend, and on refitting the tyre (TLR Rocket Ron) it was rather baggy, went up eventually, but was a right faff. Which is intriguing, and not ideal.

Am I reading too much into this or are you intimating the wheel’s deformed or the tyre’s stretched.

12’s fine here, though nowt to stop ya using longer if your spokes come up a bit short (i.e. if the ERD is a bit larger then LB state as mine was!)

Am I reading too much into this or are you intimating the wheel’s deformed or the tyre’s stretched.

Neither, it was just a comment, in part in response to the previous poster who said their tyres were incredibly tight (albeit on the wider rims).

I’d hazard a guess the tyre’s stretched a bit, and the tape has ‘bedded in’ a bit since I first inflated them. Particularly with hookless I’d prefer a tighter bead though, if only for peace of mind! I’ve got 2 layers of tape on them though, which was essential for inflation even when brand new, so my experience is certainly not that tyres are tight.

5hrs ride on my 29er LB hookless with Novatec hubs yesterday. Excellent. Very pleased. Lots of roadie miles lately and some blingy wheels meant that I was flying along 🙂

What width of tape are people using for these rims?

This will be my first time running tubeless so no idea what to get! Any suggestions on what valves to buy too?

On the ‘normal’ hookless 29er rims (ie not the 35mm(?) wide ones) I used the Gorilla 1″ tape, and some standard DT Swiss valves.

Thanks, I’ve got the 35mm ones coming though, will 25mm be wide enough for a 30mm internal width?

Superstar do 29mm wide tape for 8 quid delivered

25mm tape from superstar.
Wtb Vigilante are incredibly tight so I only needed one layer and I can inflate with a trail pump.

ive ordered this stuff in 30mm, no idea how compatible it will be!

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/wtb-tcs-rim-tape-11m-roll-2014/rp-prod66624

But they’ve only got it in 26″ so no good for my 29″ rims. What? Oh look, a squirrel!

Got my shipping confirmation today!

12 days in coventry customs office, they are apparently sending out my invoice for duty today!

Yay customs invoice arrived today managed to get to the depot and pay my fees and pick up my avalanche mod DHX air at the same time !

Cool. Interested in hearing your thoughts on the DHX shock once you’ve managed a few rides on it.

Mine just arrived, they couldn’t have taken more than 5 days to go to my local post office. No customs charges either. I got the wider 29er rims, ud matte and asked for sub 400g. They were 373 and 376g, 10g less than my Crests they replaced from a pair of Hope Hoops SP wheels. I swapped them over yesterday using the “tape the rims together” method and it seems successful. I might get my local shop to check the tension before I ride as I have no idea what it is.

I’m very impressed so far and would get another (wider) set if funds permitted!

So how long from ordering do these take?

I’m off to the alps in July and wondering if that’s enough time?

Personally I would have a nice affordable to smash rim for alps riding… my LB have had a couple of hours at QE and a couple at cwmcarn and already have some nice scars. Only time I’ve destroyed rims is in the alps.

I’m sure they would be fine, just saying its an expensive mistake if they aren’t.

Yeah, I’m planning on taking my old hammered Flows. I figure once I’ve got about 3 kilos of dualply fitted, the light rims get a bit less noticable 😉

arse mine wont be back from the wheelbuilder till friday and im off to scotland on thursday!

im blaming customs, though the lbs’ wheelbuilder did say theyd be ready in time

why is it so painful getting anything bike related?

tricky disco, mine took 3 weeks to ship + 3 days from china then 12 days in customs, its a bit of a lottery!

They also seem to be very good on warranty. I found the bead hook had cracked away from the rest of my rear rim after nearly a year of use and they’re sending me another one FOC.

I should really buy black nips to use with black spokes shouldn’t I…

Personally I would have a nice affordable to smash rim for alps riding… my LB have had a couple of hours at QE and a couple at cwmcarn and already have some nice scars. Only time I’ve destroyed rims is in the alps.

you’ve got a point.

Maybe i’ll get those panceti rims/tesla combo off of superstar

For alp riding? Put it this way, I bought one of the XC Pacenti wheelsets from Superstar and the front’s proved not durable enough for tarmac commuting and occasional canal paths. (the rear seems good). So spin the circle of random wheelbuild… They do offer free rebuilds to be fair- I’ve not taken them up on that, don’t need the hassle, but you need kit you can really trust on holiday.

When i say alps it’s les arc singletrack rather than morzine/ les gets

Although that doesn’t sound good northwind. were they the TL28’s?

Annoying as heard good reviews

http://www.thelumberjackmtb.co.uk/2014/01/thelumberjack-reviews-pacenti-tl28-rims.html

Review: Pacenti TL28 26er Mountain Bike Rim

Nah, the.. CLs is it? Nowt wrong with the rims though, they’ve got a rep for dentiness but I can’t speak for that, it’s the workmanship.

Les Arcs/area can take its toll on rims too, don’t arsk me how I knows, I just knows 😆 (admittedly I think I did the worst damage manualling into a carpark!)

What tyres are people running with the 29 x 35mm hookless?
I’m using butcher and Purgatory 2.3s and the casing is wider than the tread by a few mm.

Got stung for VAT and handling 🙁

£27.50

On the tape front, I used Gorilla tape. Put a nick in tape at 35mm (same as the external width) then pulled that tight into the centre well before running round pushing it into the seat and wall. The tape just rips of the roll at the same width all the way. Then the tape goes up the side wall a little, but it doesn’t matter at all as there’s no beadhook. Took them to wales last weekend around natural stuff, Brechfa trail park and Cwmcarn. No problems at all with the wheels. They were just the right amount of tightneed and inflated easily with a track pump. Maxxis Ardent & Minion DHF tyres.

Got stung for VAT and handling

£27.50

It’s hardly getting stung though, is it? By rights they should have charged you import duty on £300 as well!

Yeah I mustn’t grumble. It was more the delay that irked.

Finally got them yesterday and am impressed. Now to get the built up!

What tyres are people running with the 29 x 35mm hookless?

I’m running 2.4 Rubber Queens (Trail Kings) on my 29er 35mm hookless rims. I had a look at them this morning while I was out riding, and the sidewall is slightly wider than the tread, but just a smidge though. I guess the narrower the tyre the more pronounced this is going to be on a wide rim.

I’m running 2.35 Hans Dampfs on mine. Incredibly tight to get on and off but I like the security that gives.

Best to buy built from China or as rims only?

I have a Dampf on the front and a Michelin wilder racer/spesh ground control on the rear. Of those, the Michelin was the hardest- I nearly couldn’t use my thumbs. The Dampf was fine, as was the ground control they were neither really tight or really slack.

Gorilla tape for my rim tape worked extremely well first time I’d used it.

Mine are still going extremely well, despite doing the last 3k (all descending as well) of the Dyfi enduro with a completely flat rear on a rigid bike. I half expected to see some damage to the rim sidewall, so happy to have gotten away with that one!

Do they make a nice light mid-strength rim?
Most of these seem to be massive rims at a similar weight to alu xc rims