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  • Premier Icon jambalaya
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    I’m glad they lost, it shows it’s the team which has let the club down not the manager. All this madness over Giggs getting the job permanently.

    Jamie
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    Marouane Fellaini really is not having a good time.

    James Wilson is getting bigged up a little bit too much.

    Ryan Giggs is warming up.

    Premier Icon jambalaya
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    Can someone explain to me why Manu U think they can sign players from clubs like Bayern Munich ? Man U have no Champions League next year and quite possibly the year after, they are certainly not going to win the PL next season so it’s the League and FA cup to play for. Whoop-di-do.

    £150m on transfers might not be enough to get them a top 4 next season.

    Scholes hit the nail on the head with the club and Rooney, a desperation signing, way past his best and a huge 5yr contract as a reward. There is a reason SAF fell out with Rooney, he told him “you’re not good enough”

    Premier Icon the-muffin-man
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    they are certainly not going to win the PL next season

    Would you bet your house on that?

    Premier Icon weeksy
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    Would you bet your house on that?

    Yup.

    Premier Icon jambalaya
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    @the-muffin-man – no I would not, I would not bet my house on anything. I’ll do a tenner.

    Man City will be better. Chelsea will be a lot better. Liverpool will be strong again. Arsenal will be there or thereabouts.

    In fact I’ll do a tenner they don’t make the CL spots (ie they are 5th or lower)

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    Scholes hit the nail on the head with the club and Rooney, a desperation signing, way past his best and a huge 5yr contract as a reward. There is a reason SAF fell out with Rooney, he told him “you’re not good enough”

    Oh its far, far worse than that. They gave Nani a new contract. Thats not a sign of desperation, thats a sign of clinical insanity 😯

    £150m on transfers might not be enough to get them a top 4 next season.

    True. As Spurs so effectively demonstrated last season. But I think its more about the pedigree of the manager they bring in, than the money. Fergie proved you can massively over-achieve 2 seasons ago, with an average, ageing squad. The combination of a new manager making some shrews buys (of players who want to come and work with him), and getting the most out of the players who aren’t performing, should see us back in the top 4. Maybe. It’ll still be a work in progress though. So maybe not. But it’ll be Chelski/City battle next season for the top spot.

    Premier Icon jambalaya
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    @binners – yes Spurs showed that one special player at £100m is worth more than 4 expensive journeymen. Levy felt he had to spend all the money but he should not have. Willian was a big miss when he went to Chelsea. Levy’s handling of the managerial position has been a disaster, Harry out AVB in was a massive mistake they are still struggling with.

    Perhaps we should have a guess as to where Fellini is going to end up, one of the promoted clubs ?

    Premier Icon weeksy
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    Perhaps we should have a guess as to where Fellini is going to end up, one of the promoted clubs ?

    Shaktar, Galatassaray

    Junkyard
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    Training with the reserves WTF would buy him now?

    Can someone explain to me why Manu U think they can sign players from clubs like Bayern Munich ?

    They will double their salaries basically- I would say fan base, world wide appeal,increased sponsorship a world class manager but you will only argue about those.

    I’ll do a tenner they don’t make the CL spots

    I will take that

    IMHO liverpool had a great season this year but the second one is always harder and they need a bigger squad than this year, their defence is dodgy and Europe will be a distraction. I would not be so sure about them – One injury to Suarez or Gerrard is enough to derail them

    Premier Icon weeksy
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    One injury to Suarez

    Really ? Consdiering how much of the season he missed, I’m not so convinced.

    Premier Icon binners
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    I’ll do a tenner they don’t make the CL spots

    I’ll take that one as well please?

    Junkyard
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    He played 33 games in the EPL last year

    TBH that surprised me so i double then tripled checked it

    http://www.espnfc.com/player/_/id/125088/luis-su%C3%A1rez?cc=5739

    Sturridge played less often – 29 games!
    http://www.espnfc.com/player/_/id/85291/cc/5739

    I got lucky there to be fair both those surprised me

    Rockape63
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    I’ll take that one as well please?

    little tip for you Binners…never back your own team with money…the emotion gets in the way! The way to make money in footie betting is betting with people who are backing their own team!

    I’m owed £200 spurs over Arsenal finish in PL
    I’m owed £10 for Bale not scoring 30 goals this season
    I’m owed £10 Man Utd non CL places.

    by the way I’ll have a tenner on that all happening again next season.

    Junkyard
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    I will give you the first two

    Has bale ever scored 30 goals in a season ?
    When did Spurs last finish above arsenal?
    Who would bet on that?

    Rockape63
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    The funny thing was Junky, he was a Man Utd fan and said Bale would score 40 goals…..when I said how much? He said…okay 30!

    Just remembered I won another bet with a Man U fan who wanted to bet me £100 spurs above AFC when they had just bought all their new players. I said I was still owed £200 from someone else so I’d be generous and make it a tenner. 😀

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    Spurs over Arsenal could be a decent bet for next season, IMHO, depending on Rockape’s prices.

    Spurs are a total circus of a club, lashed 100 million down the karzi as far as last season was concerned, and they still got 69 pts with a comedian at the helm. You’d have to say there’s a v good chance they’ll improve.

    Premier Icon binners
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    little tip for you Binners…never back your own team with money…the emotion gets in the way!

    Indeed. A mate of mine has put 20 quid on City, at the start of ever season they’ve been in the Premiership. Firstly to curse them (as he says he never ever wins), and to make it easier to swallow if they did! 😀

    In the same way, I find Fantasy Football **** with your head too. I found myself wanting Suarez to score, as I had him as my captain, then having a horrible realisation what I was wishing for, and then feeling violated and filled with self-loathing

    Rockape63
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    Spurs over Arsenal could be a decent bet for next season, IMHO, depending on Rockape’s prices.

    There are no prices….its a straight bet and you’ll always get some spurs Mug willing to part with their dosh! 😀

    The funny thing was, it was a Man U fan last time! (takes all sorts)

    Premier Icon RicB
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    Seems like Man U are pulling out of the Kroos transfer now. Thought that one was sewn up. I wonder if van gaaaaaal has heard Kroos was only using Man U to engineer a better deal with Bayern? Or maybe Fabregas transfer is back on as reports suggest he’s surplus to requirements at Barca

    Fellani needs to go, at least they’ll save on his wages even if they lose £15m on the transfer. He’ll never be good enough- too slow (mind and body)

    Also, imho nani was only given a new contract to protect his transfer value, otherwise he’d have gone for nothing this summer. His wages didn’t go up. Probably a good decision by the club as they might get £10m for him if another club don’t do their homework!

    Edit- hope rumours of he Robben transfer are true. He’s lost a bit of speed but he’s still a class act

    Premier Icon binners
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    Also, imho nani was only given a new contract to protect his transfer value, otherwise he’d have gone for nothing this summer.

    Twice what he’s worth? 😯

    According to the press, Fabragas has been pretty keen to come to United for a good while. They just weren’t prepared to let him go. That appears to have changed

    Premier Icon jambalaya
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    @Junkyard – I think Bayern players care more about trophies, playing for PeP

    @Junkyard and @binners – you’re done ! I couldn’t afford to lose my house but I can handle £20.

    @Garry – you made me chuckle

    @Rich not sure I’d describe Robben as a class act, he’s certainly a fine player though. He might be a bit overweight next season based on the amount of humble pie following the derogatory comments he made about Real’s lack of ambition after the SF first leg.

    Premier Icon jambalaya
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    According to the press, Fabragas has been pretty keen to come to United for a good while. They just weren’t prepared to let him go. That appears to have changed

    Which press, everything I’ve read has him talking up Arsenal. He’s a Barcelona lad I doubt he’ll leave.

    Premier Icon portlyone
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    Pretty sure Utd were used as a bargaining tool for Kroos and Bayern called his bluff.

    Junkyard
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    Which press, everything I’ve read has him talking up Arsenal. He’s a Barcelona lad I doubt he’ll leave

    You can read anything
    IMHO barca want rid and he will probably leave so he can get time on the pitch as it has not quite worked out for him there
    I would assume Arsenal are his first choice but I suspect wages are an issue and lets be honest they need another midfielder 😉

    I think Bayern players care more about trophies, playing for PeP

    Sadly most players care MOST about money even when playing for the best team and the one they support. its shames them, the fans, football and humanity [ Forgive the hyperbole]

    Premier Icon RicB
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    If another company offered to double my wages I’d move in a heartbeat. Not sure why we expect footballers to be any different

    Although it would be nice if they paid tax

    Premier Icon jambalaya
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    Although it would be nice if they paid tax

    @RichB – what makes you think they don’t pay tax ? They are all paying 47% (45 + 2 NI) plus clubs are paying 13% (NI) as most are earning way above £150pa. I saw a stat from the PL somewhere quoting total tax paid on wages – it was a big number.

    Premier Icon RicB
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    There are lots of schemes they can use. One involves the salary being paid to an offshore company, which then ‘loans’ the player this amount every month at 0%. The loan is tax exempt.

    At £260k per week I suspect they can employ very good financial advisors!

    Edit- not saying they’re all at it but a good number are. Gets reported every now again in the national media but no one seems to pay much attention.

    Rockape63
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    Can we please have a thread on here that doesn’t mention TAX! 👿

    Premier Icon RicB
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    Sorry!

    Seems the Fabregas rumours are gathering a little bit of momentum. Although I think £20m for Kroos would have been the better deal; not sure if cesc can be the box to box midfielder he was at Arsenal.

    Premier Icon jambalaya
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    @RicB – the loan is a benefit in kind, taxable. HMRC aren’t totally daft. The image rights are more complex but the salaries are caught.

    @Roackape – yes indeed, we haven’t mentioned that political party though, the one with UK in the name.

    Klunk
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    they’ve missed out on Cesc Fabregas as he’s signed for chelsea.

    hora
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    Jamie
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    Heh.

    [video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hamKl-su8PE[/video]

    Junkyard
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    Odd from the manager as he has pulled the plug on two midfielders [ cesc and Kroos] – its not like we are awash with midfield talent and seems to want more strikers….the only part of our team that are ok

    Worried about another Moyes season….no signings some crap late ones and another poor season.
    Perhaps we will can play with one up front five in the hole

    Premier Icon jambalaya
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    Which press, everything I’ve read has him talking up Arsenal. He’s a Barcelona lad I doubt he’ll leave.

    This guy has no clue !

    Agreed it’s not looking good at ManU so far. Manager coming in and focusing on the big stuff like spending £4m digging up brand new training pitches to replace them with plastic grass so the team can train twice a day.

    Jamie
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    Premier Icon jambalaya
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    Is that just for the US Tour ? Just seen the new sponsor stuff – yuch !

    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiaCmkRH4hE[/video]

    Junkyard
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    New season kit
    FUGLY

    Is there not rules about logo size?

    Inside the collar features a red / white inner pride label ‘Youth, Courage, Greatness’ which represents the club’s values.

    What we all think of when we think of the theatre of dreams

    hora
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    Oh my…

    By far, far, better than some teams who are sponsored by money lenders and gambling sites IMO.

    Don’t know why this is allowed. Might as well just advertise shit like Benson Hedges too.

    Jamie
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    It’s no Sharp.

    By far, far, better than some teams who are sponsored by money lenders and gambling sites IMO.

    Don’t know why this is allowed. Might as well just advertise shit like Benson Hedges too.

    Referring more to the look of the thing, Hora. Quite rare to see such a big logo on a shirt. Usually mostly text based.

    Premier Icon portlyone
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    Doesn’t look that bad. Chevrolet getting their ad space but hey ho…

    Premier Icon martinhutch
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    ‘This shirt belongs to you, always has, always will…’

    Well, if you give them £55, it does. 🙂

    Junkyard
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    Might as well just advertise shit like Benson Hedges too

    your a silk cut mild man then?

    Premier Icon jambalaya
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    @Jamie, tat’s excellent. Look how far the game has come in terms of commercialism.

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