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  • Premier Icon mikewsmith
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    Well done, looks crap compared to the old one, no removable chin bar or anything. You know they explode don’t you there are literally no pictures of it on the internet.

    Premier Icon jam bo
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    new bell super 2R looks more interesting..

    andymc06
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    Your ears fall off when you put them on apparently!

    Premier Icon wwaswas
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    Premier Icon Northwind
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    Looks good to me, pricetag aside

    lol, yes I guess they are a bit jazzy, perhaps too jazzy?

    I think it looks good. Certainly better than the Mk I anyway!

    Premier Icon kimbers
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    I tried one on, very nice; light and airy

    defo interesting to see what the bell one is like too

    Premier Icon cloudnine
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    Is that an ejector handle on the side? Pull in an emergency..

    Premier Icon Northwind
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    Chinbar ejector I think.

    Premier Icon D0NK
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    Met now making a seriously vented & lightweight fullfacer looks more sensible than removable chin guard. Seemed a daft option, you’re not going to add/remove chinguard at top/bottom of hills (are you?), if you’re on a multi day road trip you’ll take both a full facer and a standard lid. I’m having difficulty imagining a real need for that feature.

    But having never worn a fullfacer I know I’m not their target market.

    Premier Icon stewartc
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    Picked one up a couple of weeks ago (MET Parachute that is), very impressed with it in the Hong Kong summer, very ventilated and feels reasonably solid.

    No doubt my head will explode though the next time I use it!

    andyl
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    I wasnt sure if it was for removing the chin guard or for mounting an action camera.

    If the former it could be to assist in helmet removal in case of suspected spinal injury.

    Premier Icon BigDummy
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    you’re not going to add/remove chinguard at top/bottom of hills (are you?)

    I have witnessed with my own eyes people doing exactly this. They were on an enduro. I would never have believed it had I not seen it.

    🙂

    So, just ordered a MET Parachute. Went for black and red.

    I never removed the chinguard on my original parachute, there was no need as it didn’t really restrict airflow. The bell chin guard doesn’t look as well vented and maybe thats why they came up with the detach mechanism.

    Premier Icon Northwind
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    I can see it making a bit more sense on the Bell there, as it’s a burlier looking helmet. Whereas the old parachute was so well vented there wasn’t much reason to remove the chin (and it never really seemed like that great a helmet without it tbh).

    If the Bell can feel like a Super til you put the jaw on, but still provide something like full on fullface protection, that’s going to be a good helmet. Slightly skeptical, the way you fit the 2 types of helmet is different after all.

    Premier Icon jam bo
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    Met now making a seriously vented & lightweight fullfacer looks more sensible than removable chin guard. Seemed a daft option, you’re not going to add/remove chinguard at top/bottom of hills (are you?), if you’re on a multi day road trip you’ll take both a full facer and a standard lid. I’m having difficulty imagining a real need for that feature.

    But having never worn a fullfacer I know I’m not their target market.

    the market is enduro racing. helmets have to be worn all the time, some are starting to mandate full-face on the timed DH stages. its a better solution than carrying two helmets or dying of heatstroke climbing a full face.

    Premier Icon D0NK
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    the market is enduro racing

    ah right, sorry I’m nonduro/unduro, my bars and wheels aren’t big enough, but didn’t the parachute precede enduro? Or were the euro mob quietly getting on with enduro while we were mucking about on long travel hardtails in the noughties?

    The clip on bit of the bell looks more doable for enduro but wasn’t the original parachute bolt on?

    BTW is the design of the bell and the met going to stop you mashing your face on the chinguard in a face brake crash?

    BTW is the design of the bell and the met going to stop you mashing your face on the chinguard in a face brake crash?

    Well thats kind of the point.

    mickmcd
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    And you felt the need to come and tell a load of folks on a biking forum

    You just like having a bell end near your mouth don’t you? In fact forget dont read it as a question its more of a statement

    Premier Icon D0NK
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    Well thats kind of the point.

    probably better than hitting the deck admittedly but…
    bolt a chinguard on a standard helmet and in the case of a crash I envisage it pivoting your helmet up and back and a face/guard interface (plenty of images of the result on google pics for parachute) I’d wager that fullfacers are designed differently to reduce the pivoting and some padding on the inside to reduce the effects of face/guard interaction.

    But again as a none FF user I could be talking out of my bottom.

    I face planted in my original parachute and my face escaped injury. The impact was severe enough to dislocate the chin piece from the main helmet. I’m sure I would have sustained quite serious injury without it, so I’m very much happier with a full face helmet, even a light weight version such as this. I agree it looks over the top at trail centres, but you don’t know when you’ll need it.

    You just like having a bell end near your mouth don’t you? In fact forget dont read it as a question its more of a statement

    Mick I’ve had enough of you propositioning me, sending me snapchats of your cock in the bath etc I’m not interested.

    Premier Icon Northwind
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    @Donk… Any helmet can rotate, if you push the chinbar down it’ll tend to roll the helmet around your head. But it needs quite a lot of force to do it with a decent hat.

    The chinpiece tends not to be padded as such on pushbike helmets because venting’s much more important, so you get a bit of foam and fabric but not a huge amount. But even then, I’d rather have the jaw of a helmet hit my face, than a big rock. Especially given sliding/gravel rash! The question isn’t “can it bash my face” as much as “if it does, will that be worse than the alternative”

    Premier Icon BigJohn
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    The OP’s post has indeed stirred feelings of hate within me.

    Because he started it with

    So,

    The OP’s post has indeed stirred feelings of hate within me.

    Enjoy!

    mickmcd
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    Mick I’ve had enough of you propositioning me, sending me snapchats of your cock in the bath etc I’m not interested.

    you love the attention….like i would have got my cock in shot with that weedy phone cam

    ps I just hate the OP

    like i would have got my cock in shot with that weedy phone cam

    Deny it if you like you freak! But we both know the truth!

    Anyway, shouldn’t you be bodging some rocket frames together? Its no wonder they are so fkn late with you trolling this forum day and night.

    Premier Icon Northwind
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    Isn’t it weird that these enduro hats lead you to road cycling?

    dang100
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    I have the original parachute and the removable face guard. It’s actually pretty handy as one do-it-all helmet. I see it more as a standard helmet with a bit more protection than anything approaching a full face. But it does mean I can use it to commute to work without looking like Predator.

    mickmcd
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    Deny it if you like you freak! But we both know the truth!

    you have **** upset me now

    dooge
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    I had a Parachute about 12 years ago when they were really popular and Troy Lee full facers were designated for the very rich and racers only. It died a death on crashing and although I didnt really damage the chinpiece it was fairly scratched. I would have had a cheek full of gravel if it wasent for the helmet.

    stewartc – Member

    Picked one up a couple of weeks ago (MET Parachute that is), very impressed with it in the Hong Kong summer, very ventilated and feels reasonably solid.

    No doubt my head will explode though the next time I use it!

    Looks good, might order one. Can the all pads be removed for cleaning?

    dirtydog
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    Think they look good, 700 grams, well ventilated and unlike the old version meet the same safety standards as a tradditional full face, price seems reasonable as well.

    The biggest mistake they made was to call it Parachute as it aligns it too close to the old one. I suspect despite the name they will fly off the shelves anyway, guess we’ll have to wait and see.

    Can the all pads be removed for cleaning?

    Yes you can remove all the pads. There are 2 sizes of cheek pads provided, I find these actually contact the cheeks, so I’ve left them off, they don’t seem necessary and would make it hot to wear. I might use them in the winter but probably not tbh.

    I have found the helmet extremely light and airy, it is not noticeabley hotter to wear than a normal xc helmet and is much cooler to wear than my Urge Enduromatic. The chin piece looks like it will provide fair protection from a face plant type crash. It won’t be very strong from a side impact but still better than nothing. I really like it, my only gripe is the D-ring strap which is difficult to operate with gloves. I ride a motorbike so I’m used to D-ring but its a 2 handed fiddle. I like to take my helmet off for climbs but I don’t now as it would mean stopping. I guess the D-ring may have been necessary for certain regs.
    A slight gripe is drinking, its trickier to get a camelbak mouthpiece in your mouth but it is possible. I haven’t ridden with a bottle yet but I imagine that might be trickier.
    Overall I’m really happy with it.

    vonplatz
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    The chin guard on the new parachute can also be removed with a tool.

    warpcow
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    Dai wrote:

    There are 2 sizes of cheek pads provided, I find these actually contact the cheeks, so I’ve left them off, they don’t seem necessary and would make it hot to wear.

    Isn’t that half the point? They’re there to stabilise the chin guard against your face I’d guess; stop it from clattering into your jaw and taking out your teeth in the event of a crash. The was a bit by Justin Leov on the EWS in Whistler where he said he takes them out on the transitions to make it cooler and then stuff them back in for the timed stages.

    Might be wrong but I didn’t think it could? The old model could be removed but I thought they had done away with that feature now. I can’t imagine I’d bother removing it anyway..

    vonplatz
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    I think it looks pretty smart as both full face and half lid. I’ve just bought a (discounted) Bell super and have an Archi Enduro but if I was in the market I’d go for the Bell for the ease of chin-guard detachment.

    They’re there to stabilise the chin guard against your face I’d guess; stop it from clattering into your jaw and taking out your teeth in the event of a crash.

    yeah maybe, but i think if it fails in such dramatic fashion you’d be in trouble anyway regardless of the pad. I reckon it still provides protection without them in place. Certainly from a faceplant impact I think it makes little difference if any. In the event of a side impact and the chin guard caving in you would have less protection. Personally, I can’t be arsed taking the helmet off to put them back in for descents and its too hot with them in this weather. The helmet is fairly resistant to twisting on the head even without the pads.

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