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  • Kingdom Vendetta X2
  • dumbbot
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    https://kingdombike.com/collections/hardtails/products/vendetta-x2

    Ti frame, lifetime warranty £799?

    Aside from the rear dropouts ‘only’ taking ye old fashioned 142mm, i’m struggling to see a downside to a frame costing only £100 more than a Stanton steel one?

    Premier Icon ajantom
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    Geometry chart says 148 x 12 🙂

    If I was in the market for a Ti hardtail, this’d he hard to beat!

    dumbbot
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    Oh yeah, so it does..I stand corrected. I was just looking to find fault somewhere,..so I don’t want to buy one quite so badly.

    Premier Icon bubs
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    That does look very good but I’m struggling with the sizing. Those top tubes are long.

    karlsbug
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    This is such a bargain, I mean a genuine bargain but the longer you leave it the more the price goes up, its £1099 in October, but still a good price even at that!

    dumbbot
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    Sizing looks spot on to me, reach is only 7mm longer than a medium Stif Morf. Ideally I’d like a slightly shorter seat tube, but I’d still get a dropper in.

    Mmmfft, someone find something wrong with it.

    jruk
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    Straight gauge tubing I guess?

    Premier Icon Kamakazie
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    Looks an utter bargain. Modern geometry numbers, takes 29″ wheels and from a reasonably well known supplier who’ve produced some very good frames to date.

    Seriously tempted.

    Premier Icon bedmaker
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    That’s a fantastic deal. I paid a little more than that for mine direct from China.

    Ecky-Thump
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    ISCG05 (tick)
    more tyre clearance (tick)
    No unnecessary internal routing (tick)
    Threaded BB (tick)
    Replaceable mech hanger (tick)

    Yes, I’d have bought that if it had been available a few months ago.

    loughor
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    That is one fine looking frame. Anyone know if it would take a rigid fork also (29″) ? Wish I hadn’t read this thread, could be costly !

    Premier Icon BillOddie
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    “Only” 29×2.35 tyre clearance though, which is a bit of a shame.

    Probably be alright with a 2.4 ardent or similar though.

    Premier Icon gaidong
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    I’m in. Just ordered a large after talking to Chris.

    Premier Icon bubs
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    gaidong – how tall are you?

    Premier Icon gaidong
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    @bubs, I’m 189 cm tall with 89 cm inside leg. Chris said a L or XL would fit but better 170mm dropper fit with a large. The X2 geo is based on the Vendetta extra long and I’m not rad enough to be completely stretched out.

    Premier Icon AlexSimon
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    Why is it so cheap compared to their other hardtail frames?

    Premier Icon gaidong
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    Chris said, if I understood right, that they were testing the market at a lower price point. I’d been looking at Chiti direct and this is cheaper once you take delivery into account ($800+150), and that’s not even worrying about tax and import duty and guarantee.

    It’s an absolute steal. I was going to wait another year or two but couldn’t overlook this. Kingdom are limiting the first batch to 25 bikes all sizes told so I didn’t want to hang about.

    Gaidong

    Premier Icon gaidong
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    @Alex, more specifically they’ve used standard parts rather than CNC for the head tube etc, which apparently cost a fortune. Another upside is the X2 frames are lighter than the dearer ones!

    Hob Nob
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    It would be interesting to see what the geometry is with a 110/120mm 29″ setup.

    I want a ‘trail’ HT – something like a Ti Sherpa, without the £1800 price tag.

    Premier Icon AlexSimon
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    So nearly bought one. It’s the perfect hardtail imo. But by the time I’ve built it up it will be about £2200 which I just can’t afford at the moment – trying to buy a van to turn into a camper.

    Premier Icon gaidong
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    @Hob Nob, this is what Chris Sent me this morning for L/XL:

    “In terms of X2 as a 29 with 120mm fork these are the headlines for you: unsagged

    X2 Large:

    HA 65
    SA 74.5
    WB 1208
    ETT 638
    BB drop – 34.5
    Reach 466
    Stack 630

    X2 XL:

    HA 65
    SA 74.5
    WB 1229
    ETT 658
    BB drop – 34.5
    Reach 484
    Stack 629″

    “770mm standover for a large X2, running 120mm Pike 29, with 2.3” tyres on a 40mm wide rim.

    781mm standover for a large X2, running 120mm Pike 29, with 2.3” tyres on a 40mm wide rim.”

    Gaidong

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    I’m so tempted, but I’m not sure it’s an easy purchase to justify to Mrs A 😳

    ….they say it’s easier to ask for forgiveness than permission though 🙄

    Hob Nob
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    Gaidong – thank you, that’s awesome.

    Annoying for my intended use, it’s probably a bit too much. I have a ~65 degree, low, slack 29″ FS, I wanted something a bit more calm natured!

    Premier Icon gaidong
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    @Hob Nob, http://www.workscomponents.co.uk/10-degree-ec44-ec44–to-suit-tapered-steerer-tube-740-p.asp

    @Andeh, I ordered mine looking across the room at my wife, her oblivious. More it’s devious, more it’s delicious 😀

    Premier Icon Kamakazie
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    Is it ok with longer forks for a 29er?
    Thinking more like 140mm than 120mm but wouldn’t want the BB getting too high!

    Premier Icon andeh
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    I ordered mine looking across the room at my wife, her oblivious. More it’s devious, more it’s delicious

    I’m aroused

    Premier Icon gaidong
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    Designed for up to 150 mm fork. So gagging for a 120-150 mm Dual Air!

    Premier Icon Kamakazie
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    Assumed that was for 27.5 wheels but I guess it won’t make a huge difference.

    Premier Icon AlexSimon
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    Actually – looking at the price of plus-sized stuff, I’d be struggling to get it fully built for £2200. Especially if I wanted shorter offset forks. Probably did the right thing (he says having come back to the checkout page a second time)

    Premier Icon gaidong
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    Alex, even with the Easton Arc rims on CRC?

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    Mmmfft, someone find something wrong with it.

    Chainstays are very short, I’ve ridden bikes with a similar geometry and they feel unbalanced IMO, so that I felt I couldn’t go as fast as the front of the bike wanted me to.

    Others may love it, but I think that slackness & length warrants longer stays for stability.

    Premier Icon bruneep
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    just discussing with mrs b.

    Me:its just a straight frame swap all the parts will fit.

    Her 🙄

    Me 😀

    I think she knows better than me

    Premier Icon gaidong
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    I’m rooting for you Bruneep [slightly admirative you discuss your impulse purchases…]

    Sorely tempted by this – very close to my Fast Forward – .2 degrees steeper SA, half a degree steeper HA, and 12mm extra reach – but the BB height is a full inch higher, which really puts me off.

    One of my friends has just highlighted this thread to me. I run the UK demo program for Kingdom bikes, so if any of you fancied trying these bikes out just contact me directly.

    The X2 is incredible value, and can be run with 150 forks with 29er wheels if you want. It is definetly 148 boost back end.

    Any questions just fire away.

    Cheers

    Adam @ Really Good Bikes

    Adam – can I have a free one? 🙂

    Premier Icon AlexSimon
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    but the BB height is a full inch higher, which really puts me off.

    Yes, interesting that. 55mm for the Pace RC127+ (unsagged too).
    The low BB is one of the things I like most about the Bird Aeris.

    I put 29er wheels on the LAst recently, to try it out, and even though the increase over plus is pretty small, I felt higher up straight away. An inch is a lot.

    Strange how little BB drop it has. My 27.5 (not plus) Bird has a 45mm BB drop so I’d expect another 8mm drop on a 27.5+ frame and 19mm more on a dedicated 29 frame (and somewhere in between for a 27.5+/29 bike.

    thedude
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    Yeah I don’t get why it’s so high, was interested but my scout has 60mm with a 140mm fork and feels great. I was thinking of a Shan gt which has 58mm drop.

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