Just got breathalysed by the Rozzers

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  • Just got breathalysed by the Rozzers
  • soulwood
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    I have worked three forces so far, starting with the Met, which was an eye opener where it was considered normal practice to get in peoples faces all the time. Then to West Mercia, where I had my first and only (so far) intervention with colleagues who were about to make an unlawful arrest, just because they couldn’t take the banter (which they started). Finally I’m in South Yorks and on the whole it is a much better place for the standard of officers. So maybe there is something in making your way north and coppers chilling out a bit. Now if we could just sort out the top brass, willy waving and bragging every run up to Xmas about which force will record the most breathalyser tests, a right pain in the backside that is.

    When I had a car crash in the spring, due to someone else, the traffic cop who dealt with it said it was nice to help a law-abiding member of the public instead of dealing with the same old crims they deal with every day. I guess it can warp their world-view somewhat.

    I didn’t mention the cheeky riding.

    konabunny
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    Like any group of people the majority are ok, there will always be a few idiots, but they do tend to be prolific idiots.

    This isn’t (necessarily) true: police forces are not like any group of people. Police employees don’t randomly reflect the wider population. Police forces are institutions and they institutionalise: there are norms of behaviour that are sought out amongst recruits and expected from employees. People that “fit” “do well” and people that don’t, don’t. Working in a certain environment and having certain colleagues and “clients” and demands placed upon you produces a certain kind of person.

    I’m not criticising police force members there, I’m just putting forward a point about rigid institutions.

    Edit: the two posts above are actually making the point that I was trying to make, in a way.

    coffeeking
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    I’ve been stopped 4 times in my life, breathalysed once. Deserved being stopped twice, been unfairly picked up once. The time I was breathalysed was new year last year and I also got me 3 points for an unrelated offence which, while I thought wasn’t really “fair” was indeed deserved in the eyes of the law. The police were courteous and not at all aggressive, though I did feel they were showing the new guy in the team how zero tolerance works. Previously I’ve been pulled for a routine search where they politely asked me where I was heading at 3am and if they could search my car. I said yes and enjoyed a chat for 10 minutes while his colleague rooted through my car, checked under the arches etc. Previous to that i got stopped for having a light out and handed a FPN, again they were perfectly courteous. My only negative experience was a jumped up little squirt in Liverpool who not only stopped me for a nonsense non-offence but didn’t like me pointing out I did nothing wrong, that he was wrong and that he was clearly just acting up in front of his buddies in the van. He threatened to “find something wrong” with my car if I didn’t stop arguing. I stopped arguing after pointing out that he was wrong and left him to hunt over my car. He let me go, but that was the first time I really met a cop I thought was a complete idiot. The fact that none of his mates in the van would back him up when I pointed out his mistakes proved the point that they thought he was a bit of a boob too.

    Premier Icon wallop
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    Back when I was a nipper in Cornwall I once got stopped driving down a country lane after a night out.

    The copper looked in my window, asked me where I’d been, etc and then just asked to breathe in his face. πŸ˜†

    Premier Icon easygirl
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    Some cops are noobs
    Some cops are not
    Some it guys are noobs
    Some it guys are not
    Some mechanics are noobs
    Some mechanics are not

    I’ve just returned to this…

    jimbobrighton, WTF? 😯

    Duggan
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    Obviously plenty of coppers are sound and it’s a difficult job but I had a bad experience with the Police when I was younger (still have no idea what it was about but certainly wasn’t anything to do with me) which has always made me slightly wary of them since.

    I sometimes see them winding people up for no reason and then arresting them on those Cops TV or Police Action shows or whatever they’re called and that’s on camera ffs, so it’s pretty obvious what some of them are like when they’re not being filmed for a TV show.

    When a cop stops you the correct answer is ” yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir” that way you don’t get hassle.

    Get out of the car / off your bikes. stand small and look meek.

    I have got off with a load of stuff doing this.

    *makes mental note not to fall for TJ’s tricks next time he comes up this way – zero tolerance*

    πŸ˜‰

    What nice shiny shoes you have sir.

    On your way then, but don’t let me see you doing that again.

    BOLLOCKS πŸ‘Ώ

    emsz
    Member

    My only time with the police was when I was turned over at Glasto a few years back, TBH they were lovely. I didn’t get my money back, but they made sure I was OK, and looked after me really nicely.

    They’re there to help me, I’m not bothered by them

    bencooper
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    I’ve seen Strathclyde’s finest from both sides – as a victim of crime and as the accused. Always been courteous, if a bit bumbling and amusingly incompetent πŸ™‚

    Only bad experience was with a jumped-up idiot who claimed he was an off-duty officer but wouldn’t show me his warrant card, so he got short shrift…

    ANyone that claims their are an off duty cop but won’t show their card is a tool! Either they are lying or a complete jumped up p**** that most of us hate and have been discussed on here.

    M-c, do you have to carry your card (warrant card?) around with you at all times?

    No reason for q, just being nosey. πŸ™‚

    Kato
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    I do most of the time, but not if I’m on a night out.

    Oh and you wouldn’t get a caution for driving without due care and attention. It’s points or a discretionary ban from the magistrate

    CountZero
    Member

    My few interactions with the Politzi have been pretty benign. Once for speeding in my Minor, 40 in a 30, which I honestly thought was 40, (for complicated reasons), once for dodgy front shocks in same car, (told to get them fixed), breathalised once after beeing seen driving away from a pub, after a gig, (and two Guiness), and passed it. (Just), and more recently got pulled by an unmarked black Beemer on the A420 after overtaking a slower van and being clocked at 78mph. I was following after an ambulance that had just picked up my dad and was taking him to Bath RI. Cop was very cool, told me to just be careful, lots of bikers about and the road was a bit iffy, which I know very well. Wished me well, hoped my dad was ok and got back in his car.
    Not every cop is a kok.

    tazzymtb
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    used to get stopped and searched by the police on a regular basis. It got so silly that we used go to mates houses before going on the town and each pick a random collection of their parents/siblings stuff, go out, have a good night and if, as usual the weirdos with the mohawks got stopped and told to “empty our pockets” we than had all the fun of producing:

    salt cellars, random china figurines, toy cars, one of those hideous knitted old lady bog roll covers, etc… kept us amused for ages.

    bless the chesire constabulary they really where buffoons

    deluded
    Member

    wunhundred πŸ˜€

    I’m guessing you’ve been given that Wunundred as a bribe. πŸ™‚

    (@jimbo. JOKE!)

    I would just like to say, that as a result of reading stuffs on this forum, I would be happy to meet up with Deluded and Munque Chique, as they both strike me as very reasonable, thoughtful and intelligent Human Beings. I would have no problem having bike rides and pints with either of them, and hope that one day I will have the opportunity to do so.

    I am currently enjoying the combined effects of fairly strong painkillers and alcohol, but compus mentis enough to mean what I say.

    Come the morrow, I may not be in quite such a pleasant mood, however.

    I’d agree with you on Munque-chick Effin, but I’ve actually been properly rogered by deluded (figuratively, donchaknow). We had to sell up and move to a rough area because of the financial pressure he put me (and many others in the Avon and Somerset are) under. All so he can live in a nice spot in Nailsea, drive an Audi, drink brandy, Cider, smoke cigars and mow his lawn on a sit-on.

    Absolute shyster of the highest order I tell you.

    πŸ˜‰

    Well,

    I forgot what I was going to say, actually. I think I might have some noodles.

    Premier Icon aracer
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    I would just like to say, that as a result of reading stuffs on this forum, I would be happy to meet up with Deluded and Munque Chique, as they both strike me as very reasonable, thoughtful and intelligent Human Beings. I would have no problem having bike rides and pints with either of them

    Just make sure you keep buying them pints and they might not arrest you.

    I feel the need to add that my experiences with the police have been largely very positive – stopped in a car a few times, but couldn’t grumble about any of them (once I was very lucky to get away with a warning). Once rolled (as in drove up a bank and rolled sideways) my car into a police car when driving too fast down a singletrack road, and was amazed how nice the police driver and all other police involved were (as predicted by the police driver who mainly reassured me, I wasn’t charged). My only possible complaint was a bit of dodgy driving under blues and twos (they overtook a car overtaking me), but I can’t fault the way my complaint was dealt with.

    Maybe it’s because I is white. Maybe lucky. Maybe my attitude has been good.

    Burls72
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    Well,

    I forgot what I was going to say, actually. I think I might have some noodles.

    That cracked me up, best post on the thread.

    Junkyard
    Member

    I would just like to say, that as a result of reading stuffs on this forum, I would be happy to meet up with Deluded and Munque Chique,

    DD how much and what sort of lawnmower is required to get him proper stitched up and put somewhere with no internet access when they meet…i feel sure the forum could raise it….do they travel to Edinburgh?

    deluded
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    I would be happy to meet up with Deluded and Munque Chique, as they both strike me as very reasonable, thoughtful and intelligent Human Beings.

    High praise indeed. πŸ˜€

    Anytime you find yourself in Bristol Elf give me a shout if you fancy a few scoops and/or a blat round Ashton Court or the Gordano Valley, Mendips etc – be a pleasure mate.

    As for DD – I’ve had to take out a non molestation order out against him – he’s like on of those weird celebrity stalker types πŸ˜€

    CountZero
    Member

    DD how much and what sort of lawnmower is required to get him proper stitched up and put somewhere with no internet access when they meet…i feel sure the forum could raise it….do they travel to Edinburgh?

    Breathalysed 3 times…

    Twice polite random Xmastime tests. No problems.
    Once 27 years ago, the old blow-in-the-bag routine (just under) because I had driven the wrong way around a small roundabout racing a mate. When stopped I was in drag, with a tomato ketchup soaked tampon hanging off each ear. They asked me which pub I was going to next, followed me there, and told me not to drive again that night. Brilliant.

    Deadlydarcey, no rules or regarding but remembe ‘you are always on duty’ and if you have to step into something off duty you need your card, if you don’t probably ID yourself then get assaulted you will lose that one. as Kato said I have mine at all times unless on the razz! Thanks elfin if you ever Chilterns way give us an email. like deluded said earlier it is frustrating when many a folk on here seem to slate police often with no real justification. u know quite a few old bill who should not be in job/ I wouldn’t want to work with but only so much I can do to promote a good service.

    Munge chick – unfortuatly the cops tend to be in taht situation where if they do their job well no one notices or comnets. Teh only time folk comment is if they don’t get the service tey want.

    My view / experience of cops is that because they spend so much time daling with ‘orrible scrotes who are not even decent crims they get very jaundiced. However from working alongside the I am impressed how decent they really are and my own dealings with them have always been good – both when I need a cops help and when I am in trouble πŸ™‚

    “yes sir (or ma’am) no sir three bags full sir” is always a good approach

    Premier Icon BoardinBob
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    My first experience of the police was back in 1995 when I was 18. A young girl had been brutally raped and murdered in my home town. She was 16 and this was the first murder in the town for 50 years.

    About a week after it happened I was walking home (sober) from the pub about 11pm when I became aware that someone was following me. I kept looking back and could see someone ducking into doorways or behind something whenever I looked behind me. I was about 2 minutes away from my parents house but this was freaking me in light of what had happened a week earlier out so I pulled my mobile out and dialled 999.

    Before I even had a chance to speak all hell broke loose. Cars came screaming round the corner and a bunch of guys jumped out and started screaming at me to get down on the ground and to stay where I was. I started shouting that someone was following me but they kept screaming at me. It turns out they were all police and once I got down on the ground they pounced on me, handcuffed me, dragged me to my feet, slammed me up against a wall and started interrogating me. One was right up in my face, bearing in mind I was a skinny wee runt when I was 18 and he was a big burly undercover CID cop. He was threatening me with all sorts such as a night in the cells or getting questioned over the murder. They said they were looking for the killer and they’d been following me home from the pub (hence the guy that was following me)

    After about 15 minutes they let me go but they were total arseholes throughout the entire thing.

    nealglover
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    TandemJeremy – Member
    When a cop stops you the correct answer is ” yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir” that way you don’t get hassle.
    Get out of the car / off your bikes. stand small and look meek.
    I have got off with a load of stuff doing this.

    thegreatape – Member
    *makes mental note not to fall for TJ’s tricks next time he comes up this way – zero tolerance*

    TandemJeremy – Member
    What nice shiny shoes you have sir.

    thegreatape – Member
    On your way then, but don’t let me see you doing that again.

    thegreatape – Member
    BOLLOCKS !

    Comedy Genius :mrgreen:

    I thought so too nealglover πŸ˜€

    :-)where TJ goes, comedy follows

    BurnBob
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    Boardinbob- You had a mobile in 1995?? When you were 18??

    Premier Icon BoardinBob
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    Yes, one of these bad boys i think, that i stupidly signed up for without realising how much it would actually cost

    Premier Icon theotherjonv
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    I’ve been stopped twice. Once back from a night out to see a mate in the next town, I had 4 in a fiat 127 and then our mate decides he wants a lift back to his parents as well so he was lying across the 2 in the back. None of us were little so I vaguely remember wheel arches dragging on tyres as we went round corners and unsurprisingly we were pulled over before we’d even left Oxford. After a bit of to- and fro- with the policewoman she agreed to let us go as long as we returned him home first and if she saw us with all 5 in again then she would give me a ticket. The difficult part was one of the lads in the back had for some odd reason taken about 30 pairs of those snap apart chopsticks from where we’d just had our after pub bait, and as i sat and gave the WPC my details was pushing them one by one into my hand and I was trying to dispose of them under the seat at the same time….

    The other time, again i had 3 mates in the car but this time we had stayed in S. london and were heading through some of the less salubrious areas of that fine city on the way to Gatwick at about 4am to go skiing. We’d got lost once and had to double back and I was vaguely aware of a car behind us, but spirits were high and banter was all consuming, when suddenly at a set of lights a police car with all lights on came through the other way and pulled right across the front. The (unmarked) car behind pulled alongside boxing us in and before we knew what was happening the doors were being pulled open and we were being invited to get out and get on the floor. After a bit of frisking and shouting they calmed down and started to believe the story, and then once they’d opened the boot and found skiboots and all our passports and tickets the tone changed somewhat.

    Their reason was that the car had shown up as being from out of town, 4 lads inside in beanie hats, laden down with who knows what – all seemed plausible, and their directness was apologised for but they explained that if their hunch had been correct they’d have expected some different response. On the plus side, by now we’ve lost another 10 minutes and had already been lost once, so we got an escort (no lights though) to the A23; on the neg side my estimation of the number of pairs of pants needed for a 7 day trip had taken an unexpected hit in the debit column.

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