NS has clearly been bold over by the marvellousness of her Maj

Well it’s her opinion not mine, I simply provided and an example for AA who accuses me off trolling, as my earlier comment pointed out:

It’s a question which you have seemed to have asked before AA, so maybe this will help you understand the alternative point of view. It is a gushing tribute from Scotland’s First Minister Nicola Sturgeon:

I think Stephen Fry’s tribute to Mrs Windsor outside the gates of Buckingham Palace last night was also another excellent example, if you watched it. Which apparently some people who are totally against the jubilee celebrations did. Trolling indeed eh?

Remind me, what is Stephen Fry’s profession?

He has many. I presume you’re referring to his acting abilities? I’m happy to accept that Fry is genuinely fond of “The Queen”. It’s not a stretch, is it.

Let’s not have a Queen Camilla.
Let’s not have a Queen Catherine.
Let’s make this a last hurrah for the title.

what is Stephen Fry’s profession?

National treasure?

I simply provided and an example for AA

It’s a question which you have seemed to have asked before AA

You provided an answer to a question you came up with that I did not ask. Well done you!!

And Attenborough and Fry….men of the people for sure 😄😄😄

If we manage to move forward a century or 5 and shed ourselves of a monarchy, could we just not give the job to the PM of the day

Well I think the idea is that PMs work on actually running stuff whereas Presidents are the ones entertaining visiting people, opening hospitals, schmoozing and so on. Quite important for your hospital to be opened by someone apolitical, really, because an unpopular politician could ruin the day and divert attention from whatever it is.

And Attenborough and Fry….men of the people for sure 😄😄😄

I know! Don’t you just hate them!

And who cares what David Attenborough says!

Btw I assume that you watched the jubilee celebrations outside Buckingham Palace last night AA as I didn’t mention David Attenborough.

The suggestion that people are boycotting these events in large numbers just isn’t true

“Boycotting” or simply “not going”?

Public ‘like’ of the current monarch might be the thing that keeps the gig going for the Saxe-Coburgs and ‘dislike’ of the next incumbent might finish it off

this is the bit I really don’t understand. I don’t understand how people can have a strong enough opinion to like or dislike the queen. We have no idea what she is actually like. We get a carefully choreographed public image created by the pr team and that’s it nothing about what she is really like

Off track slightly, but we visited some friends yesterday and took the motorbike because the weather looked OK. It pissed down.  However, we rode through some lovely Shropshire, Worcestershire and Warwickshire countryside.

Most villages were decorated and quite a few street parties will in full flow on village greens and closed off cul-de-sacs. In quite a few villages they had put ‘effigies’ up at strategic places around the village. Badly made scarecrow type effigies with paper queen masks on. Some in shell suits, some with home made crowns.  There was even an Elvis Queen.

Me and the Mrs were having a right chuckle, I wished I’d taken a few pictures. They were all a bit creepy and sinister, as a kid they would have absolutely terrified me! There’s a great plot for a Wicker Man type horror film there. Probably culminating in the hapless motorcycle tourists being burned alive in a 30 foot high queen effigy!

I saw one yesterday which was a masked skeleton day on a toilet

We have come full circle, millions of people who don’t support the monarchy out supporting the monarchy cause it’s a bit of fun isn’t it…I still don’t get it, what am I missing?

It’s same as millions of people celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ despite not being religious. You know, people having a bit of fun.

It’s same as millions of people celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ a pagan festival despite not being religious. You know, people having a bit of fun.

lmftfy

Btw I assume that you watched the jubilee celebrations outside Buckingham Palace last night AA as I didn’t mention David Attenborough.

Nope, someone else must have mentioned it.

Don’t you just hate them

There you go again, making stuff up like the funny little troll!

Why don’t you set to work answering some more questions you think I have.

It’s same as millions of people celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ a pagan festival despite not being religious. You know, people having a bit of fun.

lmftfy

I’m aware of the history, thanks.

seems not

Btw I assume that you watched the jubilee celebrations outside Buckingham Palace last night AA as I didn’t mention David Attenborough.

Well perhaps that’s what all those middle-class ‘radicals’ distraught by the current jubilee celebrations should be concentrating on – convincing themselves that no one actually likes the Queen and it is all just said for effect.

I am sure that it would make them feel a whole lot better during this difficult time for them.

“Goodness me, did you hear David Attenborough’s and Stephen Fry’s tribute to the Queen last night? Surely they couldn’t have meant it??? Of course they didn’t mean it!”

It’s same as millions of people celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ a pagan festival despite not being religious. You know, people having a bit of fun.

Not for me, religion I am not against the concept of it. Most of the general ideas seem pretty good tbh, obviously some people’s actions can drag it down but,cwell they are people I suppose. On the other hand I disagree fundamentally with the idea of a Monarchy. Many don’t agree with, oh well it’s not the first and it won’t be the last

seems not

Only if you attribute an opinion to me which I don’t hold.

Not for me, religion I am not against the concept of it.

It turns out that not everyone sees the world exactly the same as you do. So just as non Christians celebrate Christmas, those who are not royalists may choose to join in the jubilee festivities. I suspect most people just want to have a party and one shouldn’t take it as evidence of uncritical forelock tugging servility.

So just as non Christians celebrate Christmas, those who are not royalists may choose to join in the jubilee festivities. I suspect most people just want to have a party and one shouldn’t take it as evidence of uncritical forelock tugging servility.

Precisely.  I am at a loss to understand why that’s such a difficult concept to grasp?

. I suspect most people just want to have a party and one shouldn’t take it as evidence of uncritical forelock tugging servility.

Indeed, most don’t seem to mind, but as I said at the start its those who are “at best ambivalent” or who don’t like the idea of a Monarchy that go out to Jubilee parties that really annoy me, such docile little sheep, that profess to not like it but are happy to publicly support it.

those who are “at best ambivalent” or who don’t like the idea of a Monarchy that go out to Jubilee parties that really annoy me, such docile little sheep, that profess to not like it but are happy to publicly support it.

This seems like a wilfully black and white take on it.

those who are “at best ambivalent” or who don’t like the idea of a Monarchy that go out to Jubilee parties that really annoy me

Well as long as you are “really” annoyed over something as important as people going out and enjoying themselves, or whether they even should, then you have obviously got your priorities right.

This seems like a wilfully black and white take on it.

On the internet? Surely not!!

This seems like a wilfully black and white take on it.

No, it’s just my view.

Well as long as you are “really” annoyed over something as important as people going out and enjoying themselves, or whether they even should, then you have obviously got your priorities right

Shouldn’t you be working out how to row back on the not mentioning Attenborough comment?

the Queen is probably the most famous and recognisable person on Earth, I’d imagine? I couldn’t seriously think of someone more so

I reckon Jackie Chan would give her a run for her money.

I reckon Jackie Chan would give her a run for her money.

In a fight?  Maybe.  But then if she frisbeed a coronet between his eyes or twatted him with a mace who knows?

Shouldn’t you be working out how to row back on the not mentioning Attenborough comment?

Not really, it amuses me that you went trawling back through my posts looking to see whether I had mentioned David Attenborough or not. I knew that it was possible that I had but I couldn’t be arse to go back and check.

It also amuses that people like me who don’t necessarily support the monarchy going to or watching the jubilee celebrations “really annoys” you.

So I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for all the amusement AA 😉

I reckon Jackie Chan would give her a run for her money.

Who?

I reckon Jackie Chan would give her a run for her money.

More recognisable than Mrs Windsor? I don’t think I would recognise Jackie Chan if I saw him in China Town, but I am fairly confident that I might recognise Her Majesty.

Mind you she does have the obvious advantage of having her face being on a lot of postal stamps, coins, and pound notes.

Someone mentioned ‘scraping the barrel’ on the entertainment.
Bloody Ed Sheehan’s on soon! Yeah I know he’s dead popular but he’s not my cup of tea.

I don’t think I would recognise Jackie Chan if I saw him in China Town

all chinese look the same eh ? perhaps in a oap home ?

More recognisable than Mrs Windsor? I don’t think I would recognise Jackie Chan if I saw him in China Town, but I am fairly confident that I might recognise Her Majesty.

You’re looking at it from a very British point of view. He’s definitely one of the most well known and widely recognised individuals worldwide alive today

its those who are “at best ambivalent” or who don’t like the idea of a Monarchy that go out to Jubilee parties that really annoy me, such docile little sheep, that profess to not like it but are happy to publicly support it.

Quite right, people socialising with their neighbours is a complete outrage.

For the record I haven’t watched any of the festivities or been to any jubilee parties. I just don’t feel the need to denounce those that have.

Right, it’s just about finished, so you can all sod off & disagree about something else really important. 😂

So I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for all the amusement AA

Likewise, the admission of just lying to keep up your trolling makes it all the more sweet.

More recognisable than Mrs Windsor? I don’t think I would recognise Jackie Chan if I saw him in China Town, but I am fairly confident that I might recognise Her Majesty.

Wow,just wow! On so many levels that is incredible….you do realise you are not the sole arbiter of fact in the world don’t you?

Given that popular sentiment is so anti Royal, and to be honest, 70 years is so exceptional the next royal will never get near it, what’s the next thing or person worth an international celebration in the UK? Is there anything, or is it just grey mediocrity out into the distance.

**Noone under 40, at best , will recognise Jackie Chan. That’s just nonsense. My kids wouldn’t recognise an Elvis song either – they’re for old people now only

Right, it’s just about finished, so you can all sod off & disagree about something else really important.

What could be more important than disagreeing with something not worth disagreeing about?

its those who are “at best ambivalent” or who don’t like the idea of a Monarchy that go out to Jubilee parties that really annoy me, such docile little sheep, that profess to not like it but are happy to publicly support it

Oh come on… if there’s one thing that truly unifies the population of this nation, regardless of class or political affiliation it’s finding any old excuse to have a massive piss up