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  • Premier Icon binners
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    They could make the voting digital and then we could all have a few beers on a Saturday night, then from the comfort of your sofa vote for who the government should be, inny or outy of the EU and who gets to record a christmas number one for Simon Cowell*?

    Job jobbed!

    Premier Icon mariner
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    The markets move in mysterious ways https://www.hl.co.uk/news/2019/10/16/how-investors-weigh-up-corbyn-and-no-deal-brexit

    Premier Icon kerley
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    They also clearly have no idea of what “far left” means. Corbyn is in no way far left.

    Premier Icon kelvin
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    Another one pushed out

    Premier Icon piha
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    Ouch!

    Premier Icon big_n_daft
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    Let me guess what the response will be

    Neither were relevant to why she left the Labour Party, she purely used ‘anti-semitism’ as her excuse. She has form for throwing around claims of anti-semitism when she doesn’t get her own way or feels her opinions are in the minority. It’s quite shameful that she does so with such ease when, in doing so, she actually undermines the fight against true anti-semitism

    Premier Icon sootyandjim
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    Perhaps you should read this Daft lad, from the Jewish Voice for Labour? Or are they the wrong kind of Jewish people to listen to?

    Exclusive: The Riverside scandal

    Premier Icon big_n_daft
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    I think we know where you stand on this

    Neither were relevant to why she left the Labour Party, she purely used ‘anti-semitism’ as her excuse. She has form for throwing around claims of anti-semitism when she doesn’t get her own way or feels her opinions are in the minority. It’s quite shameful that she does so with such ease when, in doing so, she actually undermines the fight against true anti-semitism

    Is clearly you view for yet another Labour MP, thankfully without the allegations of exchanging sexual favours for political advancement this time

    As for the JVL reference, anything that relies on a “detailed investigation by The Canary” as part of it’s”evidence” is probably, ever so slightly skewed

    Premier Icon sootyandjim
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    I think we know where you stand on this

    And it’s pretty clear that you’re one of these simple folk who can’t tell the difference between anti-Zionism, criticism of Israel for its apartheid actions and anti-Semitism.

    Daft by name…

    Premier Icon ctk
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    AS mainstream in the Labour Party FFS she’s off her head. How can you take anything she says seriously when she days that?

    Premier Icon dazh
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    anything that relies on a “detailed investigation by The Canary”

    Weird that you can say this yet swallow anything written in the Daily Mail 🙂

    Premier Icon outofbreath
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    And it’s pretty clear that you’re one of these simple folk who can’t tell the difference between anti-Zionism, criticism of Israel for its apartheid actions and anti-Semitism.

    Perhaps he can’t in which case you can help him by explaining how calling Margaret Hodge and Ruth Smeeth were “Zionist cum buckets paid for by Israel” and “pieces of shit” was “criticism of Israel” or “anti-Zionism”.

    In defence of Corbyn on Brexit, he needs Brexit out of the way as much as Boris does for the same (electoral) reasons. He wouldn’t be doing his job as leader if he didn’t avoid amendments and try to find a way to allow a few of his MPs to rebel and let the deal sneak through. The fact he’s a Brexiteers is not a significant factor to him. Anyone who’s been in charge of anything will be aware that when you’re the man in the hot seat you put your own prejudices aside.

    Premier Icon big_n_daft
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    And it’s pretty clear that you’re one of these simple folk who can’t tell the difference between anti-Zionism, criticism of Israel for its apartheid actions and anti-Semitism.

    F
    Quite a few current and former Labour MPs/ councillors/ activists must be “simple”,

    Weird that you can say this yet swallow anything written in the Daily Mail

    Strange seeing as I don’t read it or use the website, as you know what is on/in it you must be a regular visitor/ reader

    Premier Icon rone
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    I like this poll 😉

    Binners to the control room! Corbs needs some 6th form insults quick.

    Premier Icon CaptainFlashheart
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    Polls, eh?

    Premier Icon TurnerGuy
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    exchanging sexual favours for political advancement this time

    no need to bring the Corbyn/Abbot affair into this…

    Premier Icon binners
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    I think we’re struggling with what constitutes ‘doing well’.

    I’m a united fan, so by your definition we too are ‘doing well’.

    We’re shit! Dire! ****ing awful! A shadow of what we once were. Absolutely bloody woeful to watch, devoid of any creativity, direction or belief, sat mid table with the people at the top of the operation absolutely ****ing clueless with **** all idea of what to do about it.Just more of the same rudderless drifting, aimlessly clutching at straws*

    But when we get battered by Liverpool on Sunday, humiliated by our arch-rivals, and potentially sink into the bottom 3, by your standards we’ll be ‘doing well’

    I think that’s what I love most about you Corbynites…

    Your ambition

    * You’re getting the direct comparison, right? Just checking…

    Premier Icon rone
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    I think we’re struggling with what constitutes ‘doing well’.

    I’m a united fan, so by your definition we too are ‘doing well

    Because like lots of self appointed experts it’s daft to predict exactly what will exactly happen. I’m just pushing against the idea that he’s completely finished.

    Get it?

    Premier Icon rone
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    I think that’s what I love most about you Corbynites…

    Your ambition

    The idea that we/I am a Corbynite as some sort of insult doesn’t fluster me in the slightest. It takes a long time to change things; especially in the face of folk like yourself a who don’t appear to offer any sort of push against what is actually wicked about our country (apart from the fanatical EU love-in). Nothing else seems to matter.

    We were very shit before Brexit, we will be very shit after Brexit – as long as the Tories helm the country.

    See-the-big-picture.

    Premier Icon rone
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    Absolutely bloody woeful to watch, devoid of any creativity, direction or belief, sat mid table with the people at the top of the operation absolutely ****ing clueless with **** all idea of what to do about it.Just more of the same rudderless drifting, aimlessly clutching at straws*

    I don’t do football – the analogy falls apart for me.

    No real ideology there either – just thick over paid blokes kicking stuff about.

    Not really the same as supporting a political party is it?

    If life was this simple?

    Premier Icon kerley
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    We were very shit before Brexit, we will be very shit after Brexit – as long as the Tories helm the country.

    See-the-big-picture.

    Exactly. Brexit is really not that important in the big scheme of things. It is going to happen in one way or another and most people won’t even notice that it has, there are a lot of dramatics around it.
    The real harm is done by Tory policies and the propaganda that keeps them in power.

    Premier Icon zippykona
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    Brexit gives the Tories the freedom to do as much harm as they want.

    I’d rather a Tory government in the EU over a labour one out of it.

    Premier Icon binners
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    Agreed. And the elephant in the room that is presently keeping them in power, somewhat unbelievably, is an ‘opposition’ that has singularly failed to offer an electable alternative and is about to gift them 5 more years to do god only knows what

    Premier Icon 5thElefant
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    I don’t do football – the analogy falls apart for me.

    No real ideology there either – just thick over paid blokes kicking stuff about.

    Sounds like politicians to me.

    Premier Icon TurnerGuy
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    just thick over paid blokes kicking stuff about.

    how do you know they are all thick – that’s the soert of generalisation someone like a rascist might make.

    The thick ones are those that watch the stupid game…

    Premier Icon TurnerGuy
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    Brexit gives the Tories the freedom to do as much harm as they want.

    except that they can get voted out…

    Premier Icon zippykona
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    except that they can get voted out…

    And voted back in.

    Premier Icon dazh
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    Agreed

    Wow!

    Premier Icon binners
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    Can I ask the failthful believers how they square the following circle?

    Today, whether it passes or not, we are going to watch a group of labour MP’s walk through the lobby with the Tories to vote in favour of the most far-right piece of legislation this country has ever seen.

    A bill that will enable a Tory government to tear up workers rights, environmental controls and whaever else they fancy, free of the ‘shackles of the EU’.

    Those labour MP’s will all have one thing in common. Corbynites, the lot of them.

    Fellow knee-jerk Anti-EU,, 70’s throwbacks. Bennite fellow travellors of the beardy messiah who could normally depend on Jeremy trooping through the lobby with them to vote down whatever EU legislation put before them. Voting alongside Mark Francois, Rees-Mogg, John Redwood, Iain Dnuncan Smith and Bill Cash. And but for a clerical error that ended up with him as leader, he’d with them today.

    He’s tipped them the wink anyway, that there won’t be any real consequences. They won’t lose the whip.. So its effectively a free vote. In stark contrast to triggering article 50, or voting to stay outside the custome union and the single market

    Have a think about that. They’re handing the Tories a blank sheet of paper to tear up the achievements of the labour party and turn this country into a sweatshop tax haven. And they’re doing so with a tacit nod from the leader of the labour party

    How do you explain that one away then? Where does this fit in with your much trumpeted socialist values?

    Premier Icon kerley
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    How do you explain that one away then? Where does this fit in with your much trumpeted socialist values?

    It doesn’t fit with socialist values but Labour being in power with current policies does. The Labour MPs that do allow it are just MPs who chose Labour rather than Labour for any socialist ideals. A few of them have left, still a few more to go.

    Premier Icon TurnerGuy
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    in favour of the most far-right piece of legislation this country has ever seen.

    or far-left if Corbyn gets his greasy hands on power…

    it’s not far right – it’s just your idea of what could happen – but the electorate have the power to vote a government out and change direction – unlike being able to change the direction of the EU as there are too many levels of indirection plus that half-arsed degressive proportionality thing

    Premier Icon dazh
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    Those labour MP’s will all have one thing in common. Corbynites, the lot of them.

    Go on then. Which ones? Campbell is the only one I know is definitely a Corbyn supporter.

    Caroline Flint? Blairite who has repeatedly opposed and questioned Corbyn’s leadership

    Stephen Kinnock? The same

    John Mann? A rabid Corbyn opponent from day one

    Mellanie Onn? Resigned from the shadow cabinet to support Owen Smith’s leadership challenge

    Sarah Champion? Quoted in a documentary criticising Corbyn. “I don’t believe you can be a leader if nobody’s following you”

    Lisa Nandy? Served as co-chair of Owen Smith’s leadership campaign.

    Gloria Del Piero? Resigned from shadow cabinet to support Owen Smith’s challenge

    Justin Madders? Supported Owen Smith and resigned from shadow cabinet so he could vote against the whip to oppose a second referendum

    Kevin Barron? Supported Owen Smith.

    Can you spot the pattern? I hate to say Binners but you’re talking utter rubbish. Check your facts. Most of the rebels you think prove your hysterical fantasies about Corbyn are on your side. They are the ones enabling a tory brexit, not those on the left.

    Premier Icon sootyandjim
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    I hate to say Binners but you’re talking utter rubbish.

    Quelle surprise! It’s his raison d’etre, talk a load of cods and hope that no one notices.

    Premier Icon Rusty Spanner
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    “….just thick over paid blokes kicking stuff about….”

    Remind you of anywhere? 🙂

    Premier Icon CaptainFlashheart
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    “Well, these two are only a little bit…”

    Premier Icon rone
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    Remind you of anywhere? 🙂

    Ha ha. It was a sweeping statement.

    Not every player is Eric Cantona.

    Premier Icon rone
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    John Mann? A rabid Corbyn opponent from day one

    For sure.

    His agenda is not so much brexit but more destroy Corbyn. Hasn’t worked though.

    He’s going.

    Binners cannot reconcile his logic.

    Premier Icon rone
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    I’d rather a Tory government in the EU over a labour one out of

    But currently you’re getting a Tory government out of the EU.

    Why did you miss that one off?

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