IT question to those in "big" organisations
Cost us €10,000’s in man hours migrating apps from IE5.5 to IE6 to IE7 but at least IE7 to IE8 was minimal. Oh and these apps are JAVA – supposedly write once, run anywhere! Hahahahahahahahaah.
Held out on IE6 for a very long time.
Some of our partners kept old PCs well away from their corporate IT, running Office 97, IE5.5/IE6, etc. for several years.Posted 4 years agosamuriMember
A long time to update browsers for organisations of this size.
The biggest problem is that there are so many external and internal web based applications that either won’t work or are difficult to make work with a new browser that you can’t just push a new browser out and have no business impact. You may want a new browser but 2000 people over in customer will resist it massively.
I’d say a browser is the hardest thing to update on an enterprise device.
We’re on 8 here but it took a long, long time and a huge amount of effort to make that happen. Approx 8000 devices.Posted 4 years ago
Thanks, tis as I thought.
I’ve a whole load of supplier evaluation meetings in a few weeks where they’ll be pitching software. Having looked at a number of their roadmaps/product plans everthing seems to be based on my client running a browser greater than IE8.Posted 4 years agoBigButSlimmerBlokeMember
5000 desktops, IE8, WinXP (talking about Win7, not likely to be this year)
Matt .Posted 4 years ago
Also it takes time to learn something to the point where you can support all the weird calls you get from end users. Been running browser X for 5 years with 10 support staff? That’s 50 years support experience you’re going to flush down the toilet to give the users something that they won’t understand or like.
IE was notorious for not being written to any sort of open stanrards. So when people wrote web applications (like oracle financials) they wrote them to the microsoft IE standard, not the open web standard. IE started to head towards being open standards compliant in version 8-ish. As a result, the old applications didn’t work correctly, so businesses had to keep everyone on IE6 until they had the time / cash / inclination to get their business-critical apps re-written.Posted 4 years ago
Word and CRM applications are fundamentally “standard” and are not customized by people, (generalization).
However your production systems, product development, internal workflows are not standard, therefore applications needed to support them are developed, either from scratch or off the shelf, to meet your needs.
The “cheapest” way to do this is place all the logic on a central server and use browsers to access this functionality, rather than having expensive clients on the desktop.
Over simplistic, but not a million miles away.Posted 4 years agoBigButSlimmerBlokeMember
NHS – Electronic procurement? travel expenses? adverse incident reporting? email? viewing x-ray images? seeing the reports from lab tests? ordering lab tests? or x-rays now I think about it? all done in a browser. So, do people ruin their lives in a web browser? pretty much.
EDIT typo? or freudian slip?Posted 4 years ago
Smells like an application written in-house (by the guy with the woolen tank top in IT). Re-developing that to work on a newer platform could: cost lots, take time, mean you lose all sorts of historic data.Posted 4 years ago
Aye, and seems to cost £85 per user a month, plus extra to store less than 1Tb of data on separate server shared between us all.andytherocketeerSubscriber
Back in the IE5.5 day our apps worked just fine in other browsers too, with just minor interpretation of menus etc. to set settings in browser.
It’s not just our users, but several 100’s on the project that access the same interface from shed loads of research institutes and universities etc.
On the IE6 to IE7 migration (or the MS to Sun enforced migration), we basically had to tell 80% of the users running Firefox and Safari to go find an XP machine, since only IE7/XP would be supported in future.
Had it been PHP/MySQL/JS and a pair of certificates, everything would work hunkydory on pretty much any browser you could ever imagine, and better still have an API whereby anyone could write their own custom tools in Python, Ruby, Perl, VB, and still access the same data.
Oh and when a manager mentions “COTS”, I shudder.Posted 4 years agosuperfliMember
IE 6 on most of the desktops until the win 7 Rollout starts. Lots of thin clients in our call centres which will be on Citrix which is ie 8, going to 9 during our xa65 migration.
We use approx 10 different versions of Java for various e-business oracle apps from jinit to v7. Thank fk for softgrid/appv.Posted 4 years ago
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