- It may have hit the fan in Ukraine – passenger jet shot down
Looks like the same incident but possibly initially thought to be a fighter jet not a passenger plane…
I must say I saw the first headline and just assumed military, very odd if that’s not the case, surely if Ukraine were accusing them of shooting down a plane they would know if it was military or civilian?Posted 3 years agomartinhutchSubscriber
Rebels in eastern Ukraine say they shot down two Su-25 jets on Wednesday.
Quote from BBC report.
One Su-25, One airliner?
EDIT: Wondering how commercial traffic could be anywhere near airspace in which rebels are known to be regularly taking potshots using ground to air weaponry?Posted 3 years agochewkwMember
Dammit! Not another M’sia airline …
I will fly pass Ukraine airspace in mid August to KL then to fly M’sia airline for further connecting flight.
Damn! Very bad publicity for M’sia airline because the other local airline is not one I will fly that often …
Edit: if they shoot me down I will come back as one of the 3 horsemen of apocalypse … with black death. 😈Posted 3 years agojoolsburgerMember
Yup pretty easily too. It’s only 6ish miles and a StA missle is very capable of doing so especially a slow, steady target like an airliner.
Target engagement zone
altitude – 15 m – 25 km
range – 3–42 km
altitude – 2.0–16 km
range – 3–20 km
sea targets – up to 25 kmPosted 3 years ago
land targets – up to 15 km.maxtorqueMember
I just found myself thinking for a minute what it would be like to be aboard a passenger airliner struck by a missile in mid air, and not die instantly..
Assuming you survived the explosion and subsequent high speed disintegration of the airframe, at FL300, the partial pressure of the atmosphere is only around 22kPa. Assuming you were fit, healthy, and not agitated (!) you’d have around 30sec of consciousness before you passed out.
In reality, there is a very high probability you’d be knocked unconscious very quickly by the G forces caused by the ejection from the remains of the airframe.
Whilst old tech IR “heat seeking” Ground To Air missiles would struggle to hit a passenger jet (because they use cool high bypass ratio turbofans, not “hot” turbo jets), the more modern radar guided missiles would have no problem, especially as in “Military” terms the ~550KTS cruising speed of the airliner is pretty slow.
However, it should also have been completely obvious from the size of the radar return that the target was not a military jet……… ;-(Posted 3 years ago
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