- Isle of Wight Refunds
first world problems..
Posted 5 years agoThe organiser of the IoW festival said on the radio he’d give refunds, so a lot of people went home again. He later retracted this offer and said no refunds would be paid.
Would trading standards/small claims hold him to his earlier word?
Posted 5 years agototalshell – Member
first world problems..What a useless reply to a reasonable question. Trying to be funny or clever and failing.
Posted 5 years agoDezB – Member
What a useless reply to a reasonable question. Trying to be funny or clever and failing.
Just typical STW sub-Guardian level snarky bullsh*t.
Posted 5 years agoDunno. It’s a pretty unusual situation. IIRC you can’t form a contract by speaking to the public at large (e.g. an advert can’t be taken to be an offer and so can’t form a contract in the offer/acceptance way), so it may not be possible to make changes to many contracts in the same way. At the same time, he’s said it, people may have relied upon that, so estoppel may may mean he can’t retract it. Or something.
Posted 5 years agopretty hard to refute that he offered people refunds then recinded them, i think he’ll be held to it
Posted 5 years agoGoing home from a festival because of a bit of mud? The ferries carrying the hipsters back to the mainland should be sunk.
Posted 5 years agoHe said something about refunds which I think referred to a reported case of someone waiting 13 hours in a queue. Did he make a general offer to give refunds to everyone?
Just typical STW sub-Guardian level snarky bullsh*t.
Whereas this is what exactly? A constructive, insightful and/or amusing contribution to the thread?
Posted 5 years agoIIRC you can’t form a contract by speaking to the public at large (e.g. an advert can’t be taken to be an offer and so can’t form a contract in the offer/acceptance way),
Ok, confused, as I though that the basis of the Carbolic Smoke Ball case was that you could?
Posted 5 years agoWas the conversation/offer recorded?
“You said it on the radio”
No I didn’t say exactly that. Prove it.
Posted 5 years agoWell remembered Zulu…was that a promise tho?
Posted 5 years agoIt was indeed a contract. Not sure it’s entirely relevant, not that I have the answer to the OP!
Posted 5 years agoFor once i have to say the ferries were not at fault. Complete lack of anticipation on the organiser’s part. Clearly the ground was going to be soft. Yet no boards to protect the main routes through the site were provided.
Posted 5 years ago
The main town on the island was completely gridlocked and people slept in their cars.
I’d probably have stuck with waiting as it was pretty much sorted out by Friday lunchtime.
The rain is back, so it’ll be fun and games tomorrow when people go home…..“You said it on the radio”
No I didn’t say exactly that. Prove it.
If it was on the radio, there’s a good chance it can be proved. I think if the OP turned back on that advice, then there’s a fair chance of a refund. Although it might be more trouble than it’s worth. Small claims court might be an option.
PS anyone know what “snarky” means? Or “sub-Guardian”?
Posted 5 years agoOn past IOW experience there is no chance anyone will get their money back. As a festival experience it is entirely geared to squeezing the punters for money then dumping them (eventually) in a field policed by rent-a-thugs.
Posted 5 years agoPS anyone know what “snarky” means? Or “sub-Guardian”?
Got “snarky” from google. “Sub-Guardian” remains a msytery.
Posted 5 years agoOn past IOW experience there is no chance anyone will get their money back. As a festival experience it is entirely geared to squeezing the punters for money then dumping them (eventually) in a field policed by rent-a-thugs.
That’s my whole experience of the pile of shite. The whole island and inbred population need sinking!
Posted 5 years agoThe whole island and inbred population need sinking!
Bit nasty.
Could swap it for the Falklands though? Argentinian weather should improve the water-logging.
Posted 5 years agoI’d be very surprised if anyone gets any money back. The event went ahead, many people did manage to get there.
It only needs someone to state that weather conditions are “An act of God” and that makes all claims null and void – It seems to work like that in the world of insurance anyway!!
Posted 5 years agoOh come on, it’s not as bad as the Guardian here.
Posted 5 years agoThe “act of God” argument doesn’t work , insurance pays out for flooding of your house for example .
Posted 5 years agoOk, confused, as I though that the basis of the Carbolic Smoke Ball case was that you could?
Yes and no – in one sense, that case stands for the principle that an ad can provide one side of the essential elements of contract, but on the other hand, it “turns on its own facts” (= “copout approaching”), because the circumstances were so unusual that the case actually highlights how difficult it would be to have an advert that did that. For example, the deposit of the hundred quid reward was seen as pretty important in showing that there was an intention by the manufacturer to create legal relations that otherwise isn’t usually present in an ad.
In any case, I suspect that all of this stuff is diverting but mostly irrelevant because a) the contract had already been formed and will have its own terms that probably regulate this exact situation and b) it’s consumer protection/trading standards statutory/regulatory provisions that would be more important than general contract law.
Posted 5 years agoDuring the ash cloud crisis, many Airlines used the “Act of God” excuse and managed to wriggle out of some of the blame (If you can call it that). Whereas, if you are insured against your house/possesions being damaged in a flood that would be different I guess.
I’ve never really understood it anyway. Each religion has its own “God” so how does that work? Maybe don’t answer that tho eh!!! 🙄
Posted 5 years agoYou paid to go to a festival in the UK, around June/July time and you didn’t go prepared for wet weather? Then you are at fault. If you couldn’t gain entry or the facilities weren’t as advertised then good luck with a claim but you’ll most likely be wasting yours and everyone else’s time.
Posted 5 years agoI think the main problem with the Isle of Wight is that in 1970 most festivalgoers probably turned up on motorbikes, not Audi Estates.
Posted 5 years agoI moved to the Isle of Wight from Glasgow a few years back largely in the expectation of better weather.
This year we’ve had winter, followed by the rainy season.
I’m looking for a refund, too. 🙁
On the festival, I’m sure I saw that spiv John Giddings on TV talking about refunds. If anyone acted on that and gave up trying to access a site paralysed by failure to anticipate the effects of persistent rain, I’d say they should expect a refund. If only as a PR exercise to ensure he still has an audience for any future IOW festivals.
It is a shite festival anyway. If you want a half decent festival experience on the IOW, come to Bestival in September.
Posted 5 years agoPlease see my alternative what tyre thread for subsistence travel across the African savannah
My observation is that it is not the tyre per se but the whole package, and you will find it is this.
Doesn’t matter where you go or how deep the sand is, the tyre tracks will be there.
Posted 5 years agoPik n Mix – Member
That’s my whole experience of the pile of shite. The whole island and inbred population need sinking!If you base your entire opinion on a location purely on one visit during a festival then Im glad you won’t be coming back. How very rude! Out of interest where are YOU from?
Posted 5 years agoOn the festival, I’m sure I saw that spiv John Giddings on TV talking about refunds. If anyone acted on that and gave up trying to access a site paralysed by failure to anticipate the effects of persistent rain, I’d say they should expect a refund.
Would you give your hard earned to someone on the back of a TV interview?
Posted 5 years ago
Full security checks when buying something on one hand, then just walking away on the strength of a possible TV interview.
People are funny and possibly gullible.If you base your entire opinion on a location purely on one visit during a festival then Im glad you won’t be coming back. How very rude! Out of interest where are YOU from?
I’m far to classy to be going to festivals, I’m from Cheshire don’t you know 😉
Happen to live in the arse end of shitesville currently but it’s still better than your crumbling rock haha!I wish I had only been there once, red funnel own my soul the amount of money I’ve given them.
(note) this post is intended as light hearted and the pile of shite does have some lovely places and some excellent coarse fishing.
Posted 5 years agoevent in england affected by rain shocker!
Posted 5 years ago
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