Is this racist ?

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  • Is this racist ?
  • chip
    Member

    Well it is racist mockery, they are (the Dutch, this teacher and your friends class) mocking an entire race based on physical appearance for what they consider fun. If a Chinese kid was in the class (irrelevant to wether it’s racist or not) could have found himself the but of the joke.

    I think a teacher teaching this at school is ill thoughtout in the least and racist at most.

    andykirk
    Member

    Yes really. It’s no different from doing an impression of an elephant or anything else for that matter. It’s just the idiotic PC brigade and the media who have deemed it ‘offensive’. Stuff like this seems to get clicks these days.

    If similar amounts of airtime were given to trying to educate those claiming ‘offence’ at every turn rather than those ‘offending’ the world would be a better place.

    Premier Icon aracer
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    andykirk wrote:

    It’s no different from doing an impression of an elephant or anything else for that matter.

    It is – but I suspect any explanation would be lost on you.

    Though just in case, I’ll try this again – is blacking up offensive?

    Junkyard
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    I have never understood why the term ‘slitty eyes’ or doing impressions of people who have ‘slitty eyes’ is in the least bit offensive

    It takes some serious effort to not get it. I assume what you mean is I cannot defend racism or doing this so I will attack those who object to racists.

    If similar amounts of airtime were given to trying to educate those claiming ‘offence’ at every turn rather than those ‘offending’ the world would be a better place.

    kerley
    Member

    Always good to get an opinion on whether something is racist from a racist. Unless andykirk, you are just trolling? Own up, which is it.

    rmacattack
    Member

    I’m a ginger, short , glasses wearing, irish kid that grew up in the 80’s . Nothing shocks or offends me.

    kerley
    Member

    Nothing shocks or offends me – that doesn’t mean I think racism is okay though…

    rmacattack
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    you didn’t get the punchline, if i threw a fit every time i was offended it would be daily. i forgot to add i was a catholic in n.ireland, so yeah i guess all this has toughened me up, as we didn’t have a safe space till upto a few years ago.

    McHamish
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    I have never understood why the term ‘slitty eyes’ or doing impressions of people who have ‘slitty eyes’ is in the least bit offensive. I wonder if the chinese do impressions of the big eyed white people? I hope so.

    Tomorrow at work, do an impression of an Indian person or a Chinese person near to people of the same ethnicity. Let us know how you get on.

    andykirk
    Member

    Afraid there are too many posts assuming I am a BNP member to respond to here. But I have a question for you, is it OK to do an impression of an English toff with your front teeth stuck out and a frightfully posh accent?

    Junkyard
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    Afraid there are too many posts assuming I am a BNP member to respond to here. But I have a question for you, is it OK to do an impression of an English toff with your front teeth stuck out and a frightfully posh accent?I am unable to defend my position so let me once more attack your view

    FTFY 🙄

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    andykirk wrote:

    is it OK to do an impression of an English toff with your front teeth stuck out and a frightfully posh accent?

    Is it anything like an elephant impression?

    andykirk
    Member

    No you need more arm involvement for the elephant one.

    Premier Icon aracer
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    Ah, OK – can you do the arm thing and the slitty eyes at the same time?

    McHamish
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    Would you make fun of a Chinese person at work and not expect to be called up to HR and probably escorted from the building carrying your stuff in a box?

    scotroutes
    Member

    andykirk – Member
    No you need more arm involvement for the elephant one.

    You’ve never seen my elephant impression then.

    Though it only works with trouser pockets.

    Junkyard
    Member

    😆
    EDIT: no need to make it that obvious some of us would have got the joke

    andykirk
    Member

    So, no one answered my question – is it OK to do an impression of an English toff? I suspect the answer would have been yes it is OK. So why is this OK and yet to do an impression of a Chinese/ Japanese person is deemed offensive? I am not ‘trolling’ I am genuinely interested in the logic of the whole thing.

    English toffs arent a race so its not racist, just offensive

    you didn’t get the punchline, if i threw a fit every time i was offended it would be daily

    That’s the nature of microagressions. Plenty of those in here.

    For any who think it is not offensive, try doing it in a Chinese restaurant, just after ordering your food, Or maybe in Chinatown, then explain to anyone who confronts you that no offence was intended

    As to doing an impression of an English Toff? Well, yes, doing it in China, particularly.

    But we have all the usual rubbish from those who like the opportunity to be a bit racist amongst folks with the same view, without any worry about censure from the mods.

    Pretty pointless engaging in this argument so far

    CountZero
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    Just checking if it’s still wrong to call the Chinese takeaway the chinky even if you’re Chinese?

    Well, things may be a bit different now, but my ex, Kim, and her family used to always refer to doing a chinky if they were preparing a Chinese-style meal; she was half-Chinese, her mum was ethnic Chinese from Singapore, her dad a Brummie.

    I have never understood why the term ‘slitty eyes’ or doing impressions of people who have ‘slitty eyes’ is in the least bit offensive

    Is it ‘cos you is a iggerant twonk?
    Of course, in Japan, it’s still not unusual to be referred to as a gaijin if you’re a Caucasian westerner, it means ‘foreign devil’, in case you didn’t know.
    I do actually have a tee shirt with ‘Bakka Gaijin’ in Kanji over the top of a Rising Sun flag, which I wear, which has frequently had cute Japanese girls giggling, it means ‘Stupid Foreigner’, but I’m quite happy to wear it as an ironic statement.
    If I was actually in Japan, it would, on the other hand, be a perfectly true one; there, I’d be totally ignorant of their language and subtle aspects of Japanese society, and happy to display my ignorance.
    Oh, and I don’t know about the Dutch, (who aren’t fond of that term, it’s too much like Deutsch, and a constant reminder of German aggression during WW2), but I do know people from the Indian subcontinent can be extremely rascist, a girl of my acquaintance who was from a high-caste family had a white English boyfriend, which was fine until she announced they were getting engaged; she was given an ultimatum, drop him or be forced out of the family, she chose him.
    And that’s not unique.

    Well, things may be a bit different now, but my ex, Kim, and her family used to always refer to doing a chinky if they were preparing a Chinese-style meal; she was half-Chinese, her mum was ethnic Chinese from Singapore, her dad a Brummie.

    Things are a bit different now. But many of these instances where the folks seems to accept or even use the the language which others impose on them, even if they seem to use it happily are a subject within critical race theory. Just because a Chinese person in an English environment self refers as ‘Chinky’ it doesn’t make it ok.

    Premier Icon metalheart
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    Well, things may be a bit different now, but my ex, Kim, and her family used to always refer to doing a chinky if they were preparing a Chinese-style meal; she was half-Chinese, her mum was ethnic Chinese from Singapore, her dad a Brummie.

    I’ve just watched a YouTube video where a black rapper talks about his ‘niggaz’…. you know, just sayin…

    Premier Icon aracer
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    countzero wrote:

    Oh, and I don’t know about the Dutch, (who aren’t fond of that term, it’s too much like Deutsch, and a constant reminder of German aggression during WW2)

    I did consider my use of that term carefully, but decided they started it 😉

    andykirk
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    Annagalis – English toffs aren’t a race? Yes they are, they are a sub-section of the Caucasian race. And as for it being offensive that is ridiculous.

    Charlie – So by that reckoning we shouldn’t be called ‘Brits’ either? It seems to me the shortening of country names in referring to people from that country is not inherently racist – it has been made racist.

    To me it appears society says it is OK to make fun of those considered equal or above your own ‘deemed’ position in the world. Yet to do this to a people or race that some sections of society might consider to be below is somehow wrong. To me this only reinforces racial prejudices and stereotyping. There are double standards everywhere, and who is to decide exactly what kind of behaviour is racist? Either we all make fun of each other and do slitty eyes etc. or we stop making fun of anyone. I know which one I would prefer.

    Annagalis – English toffs aren’t a race? Yes they are, they are a sub-section of the Caucasian race

    Well obviously everyone is part of a race, but that doesnt mean they are a race I didnt think this was a tricky point to understand till you arrived.

    English toffs aren’t a race? Yes they are, they are a sub-section of the Caucasian race

    English is a language and an ethnicity, not a race.

    ‘Toff’, on the other hand:

    “In British English slang, a toff is a derogatory stereotype for someone with an aristocratic background or belonging to the landed gentry, particularly someone who exudes an air of superiority.”

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toff

    It seems to me the shortening of country names in referring to people from that country is not inherently racist – it has been made racist.

    That doesn’t surprise me.

    To me it appears society says it is OK to make fun of those considered equal or above your own ‘deemed’ position in the world.

    That analysis from you is not surprising either

    Premier Icon angeldust
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    Andykirks last post is so full of stupid, I don’t even know where to begin.

    What alarms me most is that people like him don’t even realise how stupid they are. Scary.

    andykirk
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    Ok ok maybe the toff analogy is not a good one. The point I was (badly) trying to make is why is it fine to poke fun at some races in certain ways yet not others.

    So Charlie/ Angel can someone explain to me why it is ok for us (assuming most of us on here are from the UK) to be referred to as ‘Brits’ yet to shorten the names of other countires when referring to their inhabitants is deemed unacceptable?

    If the answer is logical I will gladly admit my stupidity.

    So Charlie/ Angel can someone explain to me why it is ok for us (assuming most of us on here are from the UK) to be referred to as ‘Brits’ yet to shorten the names of other countires when referring to their inhabitants is deemed unacceptable

    Which countries and which shortenings are you referring to?

    andykirk
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    Ok… as far as I am aware, examples below of country abbreviations that are thought of as acceptable:

    British – Brits
    Australians – Aussies

    …and examples of ones that are not:

    Pakistan – am sure you can guess
    Chinese – am sure you can guess, maybe ‘Chins’ sounded a bit daft so someone added a ‘k’

    Premier Icon aracer
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    ‘Brits’ aren’t a race either.

    Anyway andy you seem to have forgotten to answer this one in your eagerness to find analogies involving racism against repressed white people – is blacking up offensive?

    I’ll answer your one once you’ve addressed that.

    Pakistan – am sure you can guess
    Chinese – am sure you can guess…

    Why don’t you want to tell me!

    andykirk
    Member

    Charlie – as some regard this as offensive?

    Aracer – Yes, sorry, I am not ignoring you. Don’t forget how stupid I am 😮 I didn’t want to go down another argument avenue when this is already a complex issue. Is ‘blacking up’ offensive….. hmmm… Well, painting one’s face black I would say is not offensive. However if it is done for the entertainment of the white man in the context of the white man’s characterisation of slaves in the plantations and the stereotypes enforced thereby, then yes it is.

    chip
    Member

    Just using this thread as a thinly veiled excuse to post this vid as it never fails to make me laugh.
    [video]https://youtu.be/xWilKTMV3zg[/video]

    chip
    Member

    And this
    [video]https://youtu.be/LbHuHjG8jyo[/video]

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    I don’t think the white people of Britain have ever been part of a bullied minority. Hence why Brit is not offensive. Similar to how being called whitey, cracker, white bread or similar doesn’t cause offence. In my opinion of course

    kerley
    Member

    The point I was (badly) trying to make is why is it fine to poke fun at some races in certain ways yet not others.

    This is where you are going wrong. Why do you think it is okay to poke fun at certain races and which races are they? I will start your list for you

    1. Chinese
    2. ?

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