yep waswas is right, the actual cost of the material that the frame is made of is probably a very small proportion of the overall cost of the frame, you’re paying for :-
-Design time
-manufacturing cost
-shipping
-various parties markups in the process
– warranty/support – and this is where it sounds like a lot of the cost is going
– what the accountants think the market will stand (also image/brand will be baked in here)
To be fair the price of a new one doesnt sound too bad really, its at the top end compared to other frames, but then their product sounds at the top end in terms of design,support, warranty etc.
Orange alpine is what ~£1600? Titus elguapo is £700? The liteville is £2k. 3 examples of bikes that are in the same segment, 3 very different prices, buy the one that fits your budget.
The second hand one sounds over priced to me , especially with the cut down seat tube and the dents. if I were buying I’d rather spend the extra grand on a brand new one and know its brand new.