Had Clegg got on a ballot yet?

I hear George is finding it hard holding down all his jobs to make ends meet

> “I am enjoying the tears from the lefties/remoaners/commies/socialists though, most entertaining.”
I think that nicely sums up the rightwingers for you!

Yep! Or as ninfan put it recently:

We warned you at the time that a great many people were perfectly happy to crash the whole thing into the ground just to hear the screams of people like yourself who had spent years ignoring them. You refused to believe this, and carried on ignoring them. Now you pay the price.

It seems some people don’t care who gets hurt, or what state the country ends up in, as long as “the lefties” don’t like it.

Amazing stuff.

Deviant – apologies you took that seriously. I was just taking the mickey out of your paid taxes all their lives paragraph really.

But hey it’s fun. I never thought we’d get to re-run the referendum this soon. And if common decency doesn’t win this time, there’s always next time.

Where people have a choice, they choose The Times, Telegraph, Mail – which is why the left hate a free press.

If people on the left bought more newspapers we’d have a more balanced press. The press in France is mostly left wing as people with those views buy papers.

@kimbers I am delighted to see the back of the number 1 Referendum bullshitter, told more whoppers than the whole of Leave put together. By the way he didn’t invent “austerity” have a look back at the IMF’s bailout loan terms placed on the UK / Dennis Healy in the 1970’s

Currency

and right at the bottom of the 10 year average

… and so what, the world didn’t end in 2009 either did it ? Germany has a currency in the € probably 25-30% below where it should be, suits them. We need to get our trade imbalance in order, far more important that the level of the £

If people on the left bought more newspapers we’d have a more balanced press

Which papers would they buy. Socialist Worker, Morning Star ?

jambalaya – Member

Where people have a choice, they choose The Times, Telegraph, Mail – which is why the left hate a free press.

If people on the left bought more newspapers we’d have a more balanced press. The press in France is mostly left wing as people with those views buy papers.[/quote]

On one level agreed, but the problem is where is the product worth buying at present.
Chicken and egg now.

Had Clegg got on a ballot yet?

He’s my mp. I’ve voted green the last few times as he had a massive majority. I’ll vote for him this time though as labour can’t win his seat but it was Tory before clegg.

Apparently yes he is standing

Wonder why Corbs backed the election? Perhaps he’s had enough and needs a way out?

Gives him a chance to make his case for Labour to assume power. Why wouldn’t he want to do that ?

Because he genuinely thinks that people will vote for him?

better to find out sooner than later, someone else then has a go for the next 5 years. Still not sure who that someone else is though.

Wonder why Corbs backed the election? Perhaps he’s had enough and needs a way out?

Becasue he would have made the Labour Party an even bigger laughing stock if he’d blocked it. He’d have been saying to the country, we are (I am) crap and know we can’t win so we’d better stay in opposition.

I did see a tweet that suggested the selected date was a tactical attack on Corbyn because June is the busiest time on the allotment. 😆

Ah but Corbyn will have all of June from the 9th onwards free 🙂

It’s about the only kind of plotting that JC should be allowed to do.

“Ah but Corbyn will have all of June from the 9th onwards free”

Not sure about that. He was elected to deselect moderate Labour MPs/candidate MPs and replace them with loons. That mission can carry on after the election.

Gives him a chance to make his case for Labour to assume power. Why wouldn’t he want to do that ?

for one brief moment, he was actually in a position of power there.

‘Give us X and Y concessions on Brexit and we’ll support your general election vote’. Save TM having to call a vote of no confidence in her own govt.

Bit disappointed that he just shrugged and let her get her own way…

Still not sure who that someone else is though

Yvette Cooper spanked May at PMQs today, tbf is not hard, you can see why May is so scared of a TV debate, even corbs would best her!

I’m feeling about as confident about May’s chances as as I did about Clinton’s chances after Donald Trump became the Republican candidate

ITV and BBC intending to do the TV debates with or without May.
So, what do you think,
A) empty chair
B) tub o’ lard
C) Paul Merton in drag, or
D) she bottle the bottling, u-turn and do the debates?

She’ll do the tv debate no doubt if the others do. Even Corbyn could score a point on that one. (I think).
Too much to lose by not doing it

Too much to lose by not doing it

Hardly. Throw your mind back to why #IagreewithNick became a thing at the 2010 election, and why the LibDems did so well, and ended up power-sharing.

Ask 10 randomers who Tim Farron is at the moment and probably more than half won’t have a clue. Why would you want, as a serving PM, to give your main threat the chance to be watched by millions of voters?

She has far too much to lose by doing it.

She will do the debates. David Dimbleby summed it up well yesterday on R4 that it would be interesting and inconceivable that there would not be representation from the leader of our country to debate in a democratic discussion if all the other candidates were up for it.

Her hiring of Lynton Crosby will be on his terms. And one of those will be her non-participation.

Basically, the LibDems, who are the only party in England actively opposing Brexit, are trying desperately to engage with the 48% of voters who voted against it. Imagine if they could harness even a fraction of that in marginals? But their leader is pretty low profile. Do you really give him equal status with the PM for an hour or two of primetime telly?

EDIT: Thanks Legend, that’s my days of political punditry done and dusted. 😀

The lady has turned again, now doing a TV debate

Anyone catch the Daily Hate, sorry Mail headline today ? 😆

Sauce ?

Sauce ?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/19/bbc-itv-collision-course-theresa-may-say-will-hold-televised/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_tw

This probably. Happy with audience Q&A but no head to head with leaders, so not a ‘debate’, more her lecturing some carefully selected ‘randoms’.

So not a debate as such then.

Paul Merton in drag

An apt time for HIGNFY to return methinks..

Hardly strong leadership if you feel afraid to stand up and debate why you should be leader of the country.

Nevertheless, her participating in the debating or not, the mindless sheeep will still vote for her.

As someone said to me today “may as well vote Tory since they’re going to win anyway”. WTF!! 😯

As someone said to me today “may as well vote Tory since they’re going to win anyway”. WTF!!

This is an actual thing. Some people just want to be on the winning side.

Why do people even want a TV debate – they’re truly ghastly, cringe fests. I’ve never managed to watch more than 10 minutes. And I love current affairs, watch Newsnight most nights etc. But politicians just squabble and avoid the question, give sound bite answers etc. To$$ers the lot of ’em.

so I reckon Tories will win an increased majority but Lib Dems will do well (amazing as dead in water in June 2015), Labour will suffer like dogs, Ukip wont do great and SNP will do well but possibly concede one or two to the Tories. PLaid wotsit wont do great (leader too bleeding smug) and NI will do its own thing. Probably have a march or two.

or Labour quickly elect a new Leader and actually do quite well, blue collar Add to dictionary getting nervous etc.

I reckon.

Its clearly a sin. Anyway I’m voting tory.

Your not fooling us oldtalent, especially with a user name like that. I bet all your life you’ve secretly harboured a desire to pucker your lips around an illicit todger, perhaps you already have which is why you hold such irrational views.

Shame they dont call it tomorrow, everyone knows who they are going to vote for anyway I expect.
I am enjoying the tears from the lefties/remoaners/commies/socialists though, most entertaining.

If you garner such enjoyment from expressions of opposition to your views then you are little more than a bag of bile wrapped in an ill fitting skin suit.

C) Paul Merton in drag

pls

Linkynoworky.

if you feel afraid to stand up and debate

You know the scenes in ‘Yes Minister’ when Sir Humphrey congratulates Jim Hacker on being brave…

I bet all your life you’ve secretly harboured a desire to pucker your lips around an illicit todger

If that’s the case then the Liberals are the party for you, not Tories. I know someone who was propositioned by a Liberal leader in a gents toilet, although it was a long time ago now.