Yeah! Damn neighbours with their blasted noise! I can hardly hear myself drilling some nights!

however they think because we got a cat (thanks molgrips hes brill)

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Glad to hear it – I was going to ask actually. We do miss him a lot, esp as our kid is now really into small furry animals, but it had to be done *sigh*

They should let their dog chase your cat!

Dogs across the road used to chase him when we had him. Once he realised he had enough pace to make it to the top of the fence in time, he got quite relaxed about it, even cocky 🙂

Yes banging on the window is unreasonable and annoying, thats why I did it to make a point of how annoying there dog is being

hmm.. I think that the sane neighbours first point of call is popping next door for a friendly discussion about the issue.. to see if an amicable solution can be mutually agreed..

the bottling it all up until you have a tantrum tactic that you’ve employed seems to have put a bit of a dampener on things..

i can understand the OP, two idiots in our street have got those little white fluffy things with their arses shaved. as soon as they are let out the back or taken for a walk they bark, its not even a bark its a pathetic whimper.

they do tell them to shut up to be fair BUT why dont they just train them NOT to bark, is it really that hard?

(by the way i like dogs – but not shaved arse ones)

I do a lot of dog training, the simple solution to this is to get to know the dog – see if you can go and play with him – he’s only barking at you because for some reason you make him anxious.

I’ve got two collies, and they will bark if someone comes close to the front door – and for me that’s a bonus after two break-ins.

Banging on the window will only antagonise the dog further, and give him more reason to be concerned.

Some people dislike that cats come into other people’s gardens to do their business, while the owner has no responsibility. Not particularly nice if your dog eats the cat poop, then has a dodgy tummy afterwards.

Try to see this from the point of view of your neighbour, if they banged on your window because your cat was meowing at them you’d feel pretty worried, and a bit concerned about the behaviour.

Like I said, if you get to know the dog a little – I know you may not want to – it will make your life a lot easier, and happier. How nice would it be if when you came home the dog was at the window wagging his tail at you, hoping you’ll pop in to play? Much nicer than barking.

Collie’s are naturally very clever dogs, but this can make them very fixated on certain things – but, as they’re very intelligent it wouldn’t take much training to get them over this.

If I were to be there to help, I’d get you to sit somewhere neutral for the dog, and you, and have some treats in your hand – and allow the dog to take them from you, without you paying attention to him – then depending on his reaction I’d progressing to stroking him, gently, around the collar and chest; again depending on his reaction you can take this further to playing with a favourite toy of his.

Anyway, up to you, but I would advocate a gentle and nice approach, as you live close to your neighbours and you’ll feel much better for it.

Actually our cat is quite dog like in his behavior and
bigger than a lot of the smaller breeds, He’s a very playful cat Si I cab encourage him to walk along the dividing fence and throw his favourite cat treats in front of their lounge window, this should help relations along nicely, I wonder if one of those high frequency devices that teenagers can’t stand will work on dogs, and U could enquire about the health of nutjobs foot.

I wonder how many of you that replied on the side of the dogs owners are actual biased dog owners yourselves, with an inane ability to see fault in yours and dogs behavior and see reason.

For the record I banged on their window once, their dog barks daily.

they do tell them to shut up to be fair BUT why dont they just train them NOT to bark, is it really that hard?

No, it’s training the people how to train their dogs that is hard.

Dog training may be simple, but I see a lot of people in dog classes that find it very difficult to communicate with their dog effectively. It’s a far simpler, and less complex way of thinking than we do.

Not taking this off topic, but this week’s homework I’m working on is teaching my dog to read. 🙂

I wonder if one of those high frequency devices that teenagers can’t stand will work on dogs

That’s quite a cruel way to try to control a dog, imagine someone whistling in your ear – not very nice, and would probably operate at a level that your cat would hear too.

I wonder how many of you that replied on the side of the dogs owners are actual biased dog owners yourselves, with an inane ability to see fault in yours and dogs behavior and see reason.

Quite possibly, but it’s very much not the dogs at fault, it’s the owners’ who haven’t recognised the need for them to be trained, occupied or have boundaries set.

I love dogs, I make no bones about it, but I can’t stand owners who leave their dogs in their gardens just to bark constantly; it’s unfair, and distressing for the dog – plus it’s a self-rewarding behaviour, so will only get worse.

The way to deal with it is to reward the dog for not barking, not punishing for barking – by telling them off and shouting, you only add to the noise, and reinforce that making loud noises is correct.

As I’ve said above, you can really help the situation, and make life nicer for yourself by taking the high road and being a friend with the dog.

Find out their favoutite TV programme.
Find out what time it is on.
Be outside at that time. A lot.

They’ll soon learn…

I’m going to buy them a dog training book and post it through their letter box, hopefully the dog won’t chew it, happy days.

My next door neighbour banged on my door at 2am last night – can you believe that? Lucky for him I was still up practicing my bagpipes.

Why would you want to purposely frustrate your neighbours and just make things worse for yourself? Surely it’s in your interest to make relations between your houses better?

It would actually help if you read something about dog behaviour – it may change how you react to the situation – like I say it’s not the dog’s fault, it’s a problem caused by his environment – and as he’s a rescue he may have a reason why he’s averse to people outside the windows, possibly abused by someone who looks like you, or wears the same clothes, any number of reasons.

Obviously it’s up to you, but if you go along the route of exacerbating the situation then it’s downward spiral, and when you choose to move because the situation is that bad, you can’t because you have to disclose any problems with neighbours.

Your neighbour definitely wants to sort out the situation, as she approached you, and asked to, then wouldn’t move from your door – because she didn’t want to leave the situation as it was.

So several of us have tried to be helpful; tell you what the best solution is. Because it would involve a bit of effort on your part it’s just biased dog owners?
Deborah Meaden time for me….

I would have to say that banging on someone’s window is bound to annoy them. Once you’ve annoyed someone then there’s usually no rational debate to be had. So you’re a bit screwed now.

This.

So several of us have tried to be helpful; tell you what the best solution is. Because it would involve a bit of effort on your part it’s just biased dog owners?

And this.

I would have to say that banging on someone’s window is bound to annoy them. Once you’ve annoyed someone then there’s usually no rational debate to be had. So you’re a bit screwed now.

Are not putting the OP in a good light, I’m afraid.
don simon (dog lover and thoroughly reasonable chap). 😉

I just asked if was unreasonable not for any advice, besides I’ve been more than happy to resolve matters in a calm and reasonable fashion, they have not, hence my actions you know the straw that broke the donkeys or us it camel’s back.

Going to mediation tonight with the neighbours about their dog, should be fun 😕

I dont think banging on the window did anything to help the situation. However if it was just barking as you went past I am sure you could live with that. If it trully is barking day or night it is the owners responsibilty to deal with that.

It could be that the dog is not stimulated in the right way. Mine go nuts at the window cleaner but are generally quite. My neighbours is a bit more yap yap at everything but not all day and night.

It can be frustrating but I think anyy sense of reason now has potentially broken down.

I would probably be sat there at 2am trying to get it to bark knowing it would p155 you off if you knocked on my window. But I do believe I would not let myself get in that situation with a neighbour.

What sort of dog is it, and will the dog have its say at mediation!

Whatever you do don’t feed the dog something “special”.

I would potentially see socialising the dog with you so that it does not perceive you as a threat, however if its day and night there are other issues as I doubt it has a percivd threat all the time. It could be lack of stimulation.

You need to fight fire with fire.

Gently tap on their window late at night so the dog goes mental. Growl at him every time you see it. Rev him up so he HATES you and every other human being. Make him howl 24/7 so they’re living in a dog-induced hell.

Throw sticks just out of reach. Throw sticks gently agains the doors at 0400. This dog needs to be conditioned to keep its owners on edge.

Kick back and savour your good work.

The op i think needs to learn two things:
1. Training a dog to stop barking once it has developed the problem is very hard. I doubt the neighbours are “letting it bark” as you suggest rather they are struggling with a rescue dog.
2. If you start banging on windows and intimidating women you could well come unstuck. Certainly were it my mrs, sister or mum you treated in this manner shoes would be weed in and bombers removed from the bike.

Its not unreasonable to expect a dog not to bark too much but your behaviour seems pretty unreasonable too.

tolerate them in the certain knowledge that they are extending you the same courtesy

On the contrary, my last neighbours were never anything but perfectly without courtesy at all times, especially 3am on Monday mornings when they just had to let their hair down before then not getting up for work.

I’m generally of the view that pets are PITA. I grew up with enough of them to have a well formed view. Most of all, dog owners seem to have a fascination with making their problems everyone else’s problem.

But, sadly, the OP has, through this recent act, escalated the feud up to Defcon 1 and now neither “side” can back down.

And the dog will continue to bark.

Most of all, dog owners seem to have a fascination with making their problems everyone else’s problem.

Is that all of them?

omitn

there are some dog owners that are stupid. Most love their animals but some are very responsible. Ok so you are not a pet person but hey lets not tar everyone with the same brush?

Why don’t you try barking at your neighbours every time they come and go?

You’d be taken away for retraining fairly quickly. 😉

M

This issue is that they don’t see their dog which is a Kelp Collie cross as being and issue, they thought they were at mediation because of the rows we’ve had, I let them start the ball rolling and to say they elaborated on the truth would be an understatement, I felt a certain satisfaction when the special constable put them right on the reason they were there. I was on my own and all three of their household present giving me daggers. Anyway the upshot is the council will be in touch to setup monitoring equipment and I have asked to get the RSPCA Dog trainer involved who they say has been helping them train the dog and reckons it doesn’t need any more training, perhaps it doesn’t at the classes but they need to extend that to how its behaving at home, I also think its unfair that an active dog like that is stuck in the house all day. So watch this space.

A collie needs a great deal of stimulation and that might be the reason its being a pain.