internal doors and handles – experts to the forum please…..
looking at replacing our tired, glossed hollow doors with some of those white panelled jobbies, you know the type, 2 for £50 from wickes and dont need painting. however, our sizes are all over the place so i dont think its possible so id appreciate a yay or nay please.
7 doors to replace, all 35mm thick.
1. 1920mm x 730
2. 1940 x 760
3. 1940 x 617
4 1935 x 680
5 1925 x 680
6 1940 x 760
7. 1940 x 760
im pretty sure i was told that you can only take 5mm per side from these doors, that right? if so looks like im stuck with them and will just sand, re-gloss and stick new handles on.
now, onto the handles. ill be replacing these no matter what so just a few questions on whatll fit the doors i currently have. ive just taken one of the latches out to measure up……..
‘backset’ seems to be 45mm.
door edge to back is 65mm
width is 40mm
does that mean that these door handles would fit in the holes (2 choices, id choose ’63/45mm backset)
thanks a lotPosted 1 week agostevextcMember
You can take way more off the top and bottom of the Wickes White doors… at a certain point you have to do top and bottom else the panels start to look wrong.
The cheapo pine ones are OK as well (at the price) and a fair bit more flexible as regards trimming.
I might be stating the obvious but start with the biggest and trim first… any accidents it’s still usable for one of the smaller ones…Posted 1 week ago
wickes doors are 1981mm by either 762 or 686. looking at the sizes then, itd mean 60mm at most from the height. 2 inches, inch or so each end, that ok?
but even then, at 10mm max off the sides, id get 3 doors in at 760 and 2 at 680. im still 2 doors short so itd be either all or nothing methinks.
cheersPosted 1 week agostevextcMember
Realistically you can take as much as you want off top/bottom.
If it’s so much it’s into the insides you can stick a bit of wood back on.. its not like it supports any weight or anything… it mainly just keeps the dust and moisture out.
I’ve only got one white one… the rest are all the cheap pine panel ones. They are easy to paint if you remove the bits holding in the panels…
The amount you can take off the sides is limited mainly by the handle…
Anyway… they do the job.. not the doors I’d have if I won the lottery but they open and close and to some extent keep heat in and noise out 😀Posted 1 week agoglobaltiMember
Having changed all 12 doors in our house, cut, hung, latches fitted, three coats of clear varnish sanded down between, here’s my hap’orth:
If your door casings are old and wonky, it’s not too difficullt to remove and replace them with standard casings, which come as a kit. This depends on you being willing to redecorate but at least you’d be starting with new hinge rebates and everything would be straight and true. There’s nothing wose than trying to reuse old hinge rebates and trying to hang a new door in a wonky casing. New casings would save you a lot of stress and hassle fitting the doors to all those different sizes and the doors would fit and shut with a nice clean click from the latch.
There isn’t much choice of latches but plenty of choice of handles; we got some nice brushed stainless ones from Sod-it-All before they went tits up.
Ignore the advice about not cutting latch holes in rails and put the latches and handles where they look balanced and are ergonomic.
If you buy all the doors from one retailer, ask for a discount. They might even supply all the hardware as well.Posted 1 week agotimbaMember
Dependent on your existing doors, I’d consider tidying them up and go for several long bike rides during the time saved
Hanging new doors so that they fit well is high on my list of hated jobs, YMMV
If you plan on following the DIY-route to hang new doors then I’d invest in an electric planer, sharp chisels and re-use the existing hinges (they’ll probably clean up well and saves half-a-job). You can get router jigs for latches and hinges but a chisel will do the job
A suitable auger bit will reduce the pain of making the latch mortice, clean up with a chisel. Don’t be tempted by ball-catches, the doors will forever be blowing openPosted 1 week agoB.A.NanaMember
I really wanted throughout the house those nice, neat looking, clean lined, mass market white doors with pseudo grain, matching handles etc. Unfortunately, every doorway in my house has a dimension that is a rule unto itself based on some bodge job circa 1980 or before. In the end I realised i had to opt for old stripped reclaimed pine doors to attempt some match fit of each odd dimension, rather than modern doors. it took about 6 months to find all doors to fit odd dimensions whilst also identical in shade, design and without too many imperfections. One door, the most expensive due to alterations, had to be completely taken apart and scaled down to look proper in it’s tiny frame (pantry). People suggested that I should ‘treat’ all the doors (paint, wax or varnish), but I’ve left them untreated natural/matt stripped pine and happy with them.Posted 1 week ago
well, after looking into it ive decided its too much hassle for me right now to change the doors, so theyre being glossed white. what i need now is a bit of advice about the handles.
all my handles at present have the same sized latch including the bathroom and toilet. the locks theyve got just seem to lock the handle rather than push out a separate bolt lower down (privacy lock?), so theres only the space for a normal door latch.
now i like the look of these type handles at around a fiver a pop…..
however, they dont do the bathroom ‘privacy lock’ handles to match them. if i search the net for privacy lock handles i can only find items way pricier than these.
anyone know of a place that sells similar to the above (handles with roses?) that also include privacy lock handles in the same style?
thanksPosted 3 days agothe hustlerMember
If you were to change the latch to a ‘bathroom lock’ type you shouldbe able to geta ‘thumb turn’ to activate the lock mechinism
a bit like this bathroom lock thumb turnPosted 3 days ago
the problem with that is, that it needs a bigger latch to include the locking bolt, such as this.
im trying to find one that just isolates the handle so i dont have to drill/chisel another lump out of the door. my bathroom and toilet doors have this size latch…..
thanksPosted 3 days agotimbaMember
Not ideal, but you could consider either a barrel bolt (straight or necked), or a rack bolt with an oval rack bolt thumb turn. The second option will need minimal drilling and chiselling, but it is bare minimum and even I’d consider them for that reason 🙂
You should find a finish to match your handle, satin nickel??, and maybe ignore the more agricultural stylesPosted 3 days ago
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