Internal Cable Routing…why
I just don’t get it, what’s the point? I can understand on a road bike where aerodynamics seem to be just as important as weight – but on my Orange 5, why?
I’m looking at swapping my brakes over and the hoses pops in and out of the frame all over the shop.
So anyone else done what I’m thinking of doing – just getting some of those M-part stick on guides and ditch the internal routing?Posted 2 months agochakapingSubscriber
Hate it with a passion.
None of my MTBs have it now and Cotic and Nukeproof have clearly put some thought into their cable routing because both just work with no awkwardness and minimal visual impact.
My Spesh E29 isn’t quite so great, but still better than internal.Posted 2 months agoDrPMember
I’m with you on this..
When my tripster v1 broke and was replaced by a v2, I loved all the new changes to the frame EXCEPT internal cables.
Similar with my Travers – the one critisism is the (almost pointless, as it just run through the top tube) internal cabling for the rear brake.
I’d MUCH rather have well thought out external routing by a long shot!
DrPPosted 2 months agomindmap3Member
Not a fan.
My previous Stanton wasn’t too bad yo do but my current Transition isn’t done very well and the cables ting against the frame unless covered in something soft. Plus they were a ball ache to install. Not so bad on my carbon Demo because there are tubes internally.
Agreed that the solution on the latest Canyons looks good.Posted 2 months agopictonroadSubscriber
My Specialized has individual channels for each cable inside the frame, they’ve really thought about the person doing the installation. It’s definitely more faff than external cables but I venture that if thought about properly there’s no need for it to be rage inducing.Posted 2 months agonickcSubscriber
I think they look OK on road bikes, but a lot of mountain bikes have pretty ill thought out routing that just looks like an afterthought. I also like the new designs on canyon, I think having them routed behind a shield is good looking and a neat idea.
I’ve seen a Scott Genius LT wear through a hydro cable once, as the internal routing, while OK for euro style brakes, made the run too tight for a UK set up and it just rubbed on the hole in the frame until it wore through.Posted 2 months agotangMember
I have never ever in 30 years of off road riding snagged a cable on a branch. Bars, mechs and pedals yes. I have however lost my shit with a snazzy carbon HT internal routing.Posted 2 months ago
When I had my custom cxish bike made, all neat external full outer routing with clips so cleaning is a doddle.superstuSubscriber
Love it, less to snag on branches, less to rub away at the frame
As another person commented, has anyone ever had a cable snag? Really? Given external cables are obviously attached to the frame anything on the trail will hit you/ handlebars before any cables.
Also things like fibrax mean cable rub isn’t an issue unless you make it one. Saracen were doing internal cabling in the 80’s, didn’t see it being an issue then or now. Can look good but decently routed external cables don’t harm any aesthetic so not bothered about it.Posted 2 months agomunrobikerMember
My carbon Transition has tubes that run inside the main tubes for the cables. This makes them easier to install (to a point – the dropper cable tube stops just before a reinforcement ring in the seat tube that the cable then won’t go past :roll ).
But it begs the question, why? If they ran under the downtube they’d save the weight of these extra tubes, and the cost of fitting them and the disadvantages, as far as I can tell are that the bike would look slightly uglier. Which just isn’t worth it. And there’s still potential for rub.
My Trek and my aluminium Transition lack this, and while once the cables are in it’s OK to swap them, it’s a nightmare to set up initially. And pointless.
Stealth dropper from the bottom of the seat tube (not before) is good, though.Posted 2 months agostevextcMember
Don’t even start me….Posted 2 months ago
The grommets on the Whyte are awful to remove and put bad and for high maintenance items like Reverbs it takes longer gaffing with the grommets than a bleed…
I had the rear hose just cable tied for a while… as doing the hydraulics is just messycrazy-legsSubscriber
As another person commented, has anyone ever had a cable snag? Really?
No but I’ve seen a cable get ripped out of a caliper by the impact of a crash. Snagging cables is less of a problem during riding and more of a problem during storage or transport of bikes TBH.
Done well, they can be very very good indeed – nice neat lines, complete movement of the bars and for electronic gears and hydro disc brakes it’s perfect since the wires/hoses can bend round any angle without any effect on the gears or brakes. There’s a couple of road bikes have got it more or less spot on recently.
MTBs are still stuck in the dark ages when it comes to integration and the continued insistence of bolting on aftermarket brakes or mix-and-matching groupsets or aftermarket dropper posts which means that loads of “integrated” cables are actually really messy.Posted 2 months agostevextcMember
MTBs are still stuck in the dark ages when it comes to integration and the continued insistence of bolting on aftermarket brakes or mix-and-matching groupsets or aftermarket dropper posts which means that loads of “integrated” cables are actually really messy.
I’m not sure the ability to swap and mix and match is a bad thing!
But MTB’s are used in a different and in the UK muddier environment than road bikes.Posted 2 months ago
I buy Jagwire outer in 10m lengths and replace inners whenever … because mud and stuff will get in regardless. I just like it to be as quick and simple as possible to change. Anything with rubber seals on the internal routing is just a pain to deal with. Pretty much any Alu or Carbon frame the actual routing isn’t the problem (if you own some magnets) its the damned seals/grommets take far longer than the routing.spooky_b329Member
I like it. Built my Kinesis up and it took a couple of goes to thread an inner through, tape it to the hose and pull back.
I’ve had a hydraulic hose get snagged and start leaking, however I’m not convinced internal routing solves that, as it still runs down the fork leg or pops out of the chainstay which is where you would normally snag it.
Looks nice, doesn’t get in the way of attaching frame/bike packing bags with velcro, and the bike is easier to wash.Posted 2 months agocookeaaSubscriber
I only have a road bike with internal routing and dislike it immensely. Too much faff no actual performance benefits for most people on or off road…
It’s an aesthetic thing to my mind, borrowed from road bikes and done because half of the magpies buying mountain bikes now just like pretty things…Posted 2 months ago
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