If i bumped into the back of a car….
and smashed his rear near side tail light, would it have been my fault?
If this had happened, after he had just overtook me and then pulled in front of me and then stopped suddenly, would it still be my fault?
Of course this hasn't happened to me, and of course i didn't just ride off, and of course i would be accountable if i was at fault.Posted 7 years ago
he stopped to turn right. i didn't see his indicator turning right as he wasn't really ever in front of me.
i saw him slowing, so i went to brake, but then he had stopped, and my brakes ain't that good.
i'm just a bit miffed, that his bad driving caused me to hit him and he can add me to the list of cyclists that cause him to overtake them dangerously.Posted 7 years ago
Coatsey i think you are assuming my brakes were not good enough to stop me.
I was riding at about 15mph and the car as it overtook was slowing. I had no idea it was going to pull in front of me so i was still pedalling and not slowing. The car then pulled in front of me and stopped. I pulled on my brakes to stop me hitting his car, but they would never have stopped me from hitting his car. They are V brakes, but very well set up and enough to send me over the bars and lock the rear wheel up if i wanted to.
Of course having defective brakes may have made me at fault, and thats sort of my question. Am i at fault if a car pulls in front of me and stops suddenly with no indication that he is going to do so?
Isn't it right in a car that if someone crashes into the back of car in front it is assumed that the following car is always at fault? So does this apply to a bike? Even if a car stops in front of a moving bike that he has dangerously overtaken?Posted 7 years agoMSPSubscriber
On the face of it, it sounds like the car was overtaking too late then pulled across to make a left turn, a fairly typical bit of bad driving, and in which case you wouldn't be at fault and the police should be having words with him about endangering your life.Posted 7 years ago
However the way you have worded your question makes it sound like there is a whole lot more to the story than you are letting on.HazeSubscriber
Driver shouldn't be overtaking so late before turning off.
It's one of the things that really grinds my gears, when you're approaching an island/junction and some idiot is still trying to overtake even when there's clearly not enough time. Usually receives a good thump on the window when they almost inevitably move in and put the squeeze on you.
I'd have thought drivers fault, though you'd most likely need a witness to prove anything…Posted 7 years agobigyinnMember
The thing you need to ask is, whose actions caued the event?Posted 7 years ago
If he went round you and then veered in to the left towards you and then braked sharply before turning right then he should have been more aware of your presence. If that is what happened (and not you not paying attention) then i'd say its his fault.thomthumbMember
It's one of the things that really grinds my gears, when you're approaching an island/junction and some idiot is still trying to overtake even when there's clearly not enough time. Usually receives a good thump on the window when they almost inevitably move in and put the squeeze on you
you shouldn't be giving them the room. primary positioning time.Posted 7 years agouplinkMember
i can't visualise how he would have overtaken you, assuming he did that to the right, and then in preparing to make a right turn got in such a position that you were unable to avoid hitting the rear right of the car?
I'm assuming he moved right to overtake him before moving left again in front of him & then going slightly right again & braking
although the OP claims he was never really in front of him so a bid oddPosted 7 years ago
I did stop to 'talk' to the driver, but he turned off, at that point..
I was riding out wide enough for him to have to make a large effort to overtake, but he just seemed to want to get past, and swerved out around me, then swerved in front of me.
i think at most he was maybe a foot infront of me when i has to move to the right, and then he stopped.
How much does a rear light cluster cost anyway?Posted 7 years agocynic-alMember
I'd have though once you'v ebeen overtaken, no matter how badly, you have a duty to slow to allow decent room between the vehicles.
Question may be did you have time to do so and could you have avoided going into the back of him without doing an emergency stop?
you shouldn't be giving them the room. primary positioning time.
Irrelevant.Posted 7 years agosparkyspiceSubscriber
Sound to me like the car driver was at fault. He should have been more patient and not overtaken you so as to endanger you by not leaving you enough stopping distance. I bloody hate it when cars overtake you and then indicate left into a side turn…. This normally results in abuse! Just 5 seconds of patience is all it takes FFS.Posted 7 years ago
Did you get his number plate?philjuniorMember
If he'd just overtaken you that close to his turn then braked in front of you, 100% his fault IMO. I hope that you and your bike are OK and he will think twice about driving like a nob in future due to the repairs he will now have to make to his car.
As the OP said, the car was never really fully in front of him – basically (and I have this happen a lot on my way to work…) some cars, busses and trucks will think that as soon as they have drawn level with you and can't see you in their windscreen anymore you don't exist. This, unfortunately, is false, and they are crap drivers that should be removed from the road.
If I were in your situation I'd report it to the police as him driving away from the scene of an accident, and let them know about his (now) defective lights.
Depends on the car, if it's new then the light clusters can be pricey, and if he pays to have it fitted that's more £££.Posted 7 years ago
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