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  • I need a mech hanger alignment tool ……
  • Premier Icon oscillatewildly
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    Is the park tools 2.2 worth it over the lifeline one on wiggle?

    It’s something I’ve always wanted to do myself as the amount of times shfitings gone to pot and it’s 9/10 times down to the mech hanger being slightly out

    Are they easy to use? Never attempted it before

    Premier Icon thepurist
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    I got the Park one – it’s a sturdy bit of kit but I only got it because various discounts meant it more or less matched the price of the Lifeline etc ones and I’m sure they do the job just as well.

    They’re a doddle to use, you just need the right combination of bravery, force and sensitivity when making the adjustments.

    Premier Icon fadda
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    I’ve got the lifeline one, and it’s absolutely fine. There’s a little bit of flex (it’s basically just a metal bar, after all…), but you can just allow for that – it’s not really an exact science, anyway…

    Premier Icon TheBrick
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    I use a bit of angle and some bolts. Works fine.

    Premier Icon dirkpitt74
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    You can use an old cup & cone rear axle screwed in from behind too.

    Premier Icon timbog160
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    Park Tools one is good. Worth the extra? No idea! What you need is somebody who has both!

    Premier Icon orangespyderman
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    I’ve got the Park one. It’s good. There are a lot of ways of doing without, but it’s easier with. Depends how much it’s worth to you.

    Worth the extra? No idea! What you need is somebody who has both!

    Yep.

    Premier Icon timbog160
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    Either way I would highly recommend you go for it. It is one of those odd things I never really thought about before I bought it, but it has massively enriched my life (well, my mtb life anyway!)..

    Premier Icon Watty
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    Park Tools one here. Worth every single penny.

    Premier Icon oscillatewildly
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    Ok thanks I’m sold on getting one I expect I will use it a few times a month just to keep on top of it, I’ve had so many issues with shifting and eventually after trying everything I take it the shop and they say the hanger is slightly out

    So it is a sound investment thanks for the replies sounds like both will work fine and park one is a little better or at least quality wise as you’d expect

    I have no issue whacking at it as I’ve got spare hangers it’s just figuring out how to use the thing scares me more in terms of lining it up etc

    Premier Icon stevious
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    There are some cheap Chinese ones on eBay/amazon. I have the ztto cylindrical one. It’s ok but I wish I’d spent more on something less fiddly

    Premier Icon oscillatewildly
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    Yeh I’ve read about that one being a bit hit and miss prefer just spend once and get it right for the park one or lifeline one

    Premier Icon jeff
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    Can’t comment on Park Tool version, but my cheapo lifeline one sorted out the shifting on an 11 speed upgrade here.

    Premier Icon joshvegas
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    You can use an old cup & cone rear axle screwed in from behind too.

    Are we just leaving the obvious inuendo hanging?

    Premier Icon fasthaggis
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    I bought the Lifeline one and thought there was too much ‘slack’ in it.
    Still worked ok but rather than send it back I took it apart and fitted a shim.
    A bit annoying that they didn’t make a better job on a critical part of the device.
    Should have just made my own,it would have been awesome 😉

    Premier Icon james-rennie
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    oldest son bought a park tool one, very sturdy, easy to use. He sorted out his cheesey frame, then re-sold the tool, IIRC in total he was only £4 out of pocket at the end

    Premier Icon tagnut69
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    I bought the park copy off ebay, it is the same as the park one but around £20 cheaper, having used both the park one isnt worth the extra£
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Professional-Bicycle-Derailleur-Hanger-Alignment-Gauge-for-MTB-Road-Bike-Cycling/402557995240?hash=item5dba5388e8:g:xacAAOSw7TNfse5w

    Premier Icon b33k34
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    One argument for buying Park is that it will always be worth something if you want to sell it, whilst the others won’t be.

    Premier Icon stormtrooper
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    Have a go at making one yourself first, nothing to lose. See RJ The Bike Guy’s vid DIY derailleur hanger adjustment tool

    Premier Icon granny_ring
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    CRC have the Lifeline one for £36 at the mo. It’s worked well for me.

    Premier Icon Poopscoop
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    @fasthaggis
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    I bought the Lifeline one and thought there was too much ‘slack’ in it.
    Still worked ok but rather than send it back I took it apart and fitted a shim.
    A bit annoying that they didn’t make a better job on a critical part of the device.
    Should have just made my own,it would have been awesome

    I’ve got the same one, yep, works fine but definitely a little bit fiddly due to the play.

    What did you do exactly to make the shim?

    Premier Icon fasthaggis
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    ^^Made the shim from a bit of Fever Tree tonic tin,other tonics are available 🙂

    Premier Icon devash
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    ^^Made the shim from a bit of Fever Tree tonic tin,other tonics are available 🙂

    @fasthaggis

    Interesting approach to sorting out the play. How did you remove the grub screw that holds in the axle / screw part? On mine it is jammed in solid and I don’t want to put too much pressure on it in case I round it off and / or break the tool.

    Premier Icon fasthaggis
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    devash
    At first (without taking it apart) I pushed some shim in from the hanger end and it helped take up a lot of the slack.
    The grub screw was solid/fixed,I think they lock in a set position when it’s built,but me being me I drilled it out,took things apart,re-reamed the main holder,fitted longer shim and a new grubscrew. 🙂

    Premier Icon devash
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    ^^^^^^^ Awesome, will have a fiddle with mine next time I’m in the garage.

    Premier Icon fasthaggis
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    Close the door first 😉

    Oh, and make sure the nose of the new screw is close to the same shape as the cut out in the main shaft.
    You will also want to fix the new grub screw in position ,I used a bit of thread tape and a second grub screw to lock them up.

    I am sure the Park tool has all this detail covered already ,but I like doing this kinda stuff and it has been loaned out to my bike club mates a lot since. 🙂

    Premier Icon granny_ring
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    Sounds beyond my capability so will just take the slack up when measuring. 😂

    Premier Icon allyharp
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    I’ve got the Lifeline and it does indeed have a lot of play. I regret not spending a bit more on the Park.

    Premier Icon Poopscoop
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    Cheers @fasthaggis, I’ll try your initial approach but I won’t be going “full haggis” and drilling out the grub screw or anything.

    I think that would end badly if I try it.😂

    Premier Icon Jordan
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    It’s not hard to negate the play while using the lifeline one. Just very lightly pull on the end of the arm while checking each position just enough to take up the slack without bending anything and that is accurate enough.

    Premier Icon molgrips
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    They’re a doddle to use

    My Lifeline one really isn’t, in my opinion. You have to continually adjust the pointer bar thingy and it’s sort of slow and annoying. Aligning threaded bar in the derailleur mount with one through the axle would be better, IMO. Are there any off-the-shelf tools that do that?

    EDIT this is what the Wolf Tooth one does, but it’s not cheap.

    Premier Icon rackri
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    Has anyone tried the Wolftooth alignment tool?
    https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/products/pack-hanger-alignment-tool

    Premier Icon endomick
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    I bought one of those ztto ones off Ebay, works fine with a slight change, replaced the grub screws with slightly longer M4 socket cap bolts, minimal play imo and the head with the thru rod no longer rotates once you swap the grub for a bolt and nip it up.

    Premier Icon Jordan
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    Never seen the Wolftooth one before. Looks quite a good idea!

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