Well played Govanhill, and get it right up you Patel.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-57100259

*Pedant mode*

It’s “weegie” and this is Pollokshields, not Govanhill, but regardless it’s a brilliant effort from the community. I drove past yesterday as a stream of riot vans were speeding to the scene. I knew what was going on and assumed it had proper kicked off. 35 police vehicles there apparently!

Also Refuweegies has been coined for the main players.

That@s a minter as I am from Kilmarnock, my bad as well as I read it as NS’s patch. Sentiment towards that odious state secret sharing home sec remains the same though.

Also Refuweegies has been coined for the main players.

That’s existed for ages as an organisation that helps refugees in the city

I think immigration is high up the list of powers that SNP want devolved to Scotland, given the demographics and under-population, need people to work in rural hospitality and farming businesses etc.

Turning up on Eid to cart people away was never going to go well, was it?

Good effort by the whole community. Next step will be them quietly taking the ‘hostile environment’ logos off their van and just pulling up in unmarked transits to bundle people off.

Yes well done good community spirit there.

The sooner we get rid of the UK border agency the better. I absolutely loathe them.

I saw this and loved it too.
Policing only works by consent, it appears the Scottish people do not consent to Patel and her goons. It was a hopeful joyous thing to happen.

Shit the bed, that’s a turnout! 👏👏

The Home Office is toughening its stance on immigration, but says its policies will make the system fairer for those most in need, while discouraging criminal activity like people trafficking.

The Scottish government, and the protestors in Glasgow today, fundamentally disagree.

That article is worth the price of admission for that closing quote. You reckon, do you? Amazing.

Well played.

Next step will be them quietly taking the ‘hostile environment’ logos off their van and just pulling up in unmarked transits to bundle people off.

They already have the Jackboots.

Yeah well done, and all it really required was some people standing in a road

Policing only works by consent,

Police Scotland have nothing to do with immigration enforcement though. They were only there to maintain order. Border Force are the ones pulling people out of their homes and slinging them in vans.

I’m sure there were some interesting conversations between the Police and the Border Force officers

I actually cried watching that.
Partly in relief that there are still in our country, good people.

But mainly in sadness that our population as a whole are such vile scum as to make gestures like these necessary.

Goan yerselll

I’ve unfortunately had experience with ‘Border Force’ agents; their typical MO is to turn up (often in the early hours to catch people by surprise, and avoid resistance by members of the public) and use aggression and intimidation to force people to comply, and often act unlawfully. It must be recognised that many BF agents are the kind of people who failed to get into the police, so you can imagine the bar is very, very low. They invariably aren’t well educated, not particularly intelligent, although they’ll often have one senior member who will be giving orders. They also invariably do not follow correct legal procedure when questioning people, and do not inform them of their rights in law. Which is why it is so important to at least observe, and better still, to arm yourself with the actual correct legal procedure in terms of apprehending and questioning individuals (people have the right to leave at any time, usually, as they cannot be lawfully detained unless the BF agents have an actual court document enabling them to do so), and to actively intervene if you believe the law isn’t being correctly obeyed. You cannot be arrested by them, as they have no legal powers to do so (they need police officers in attendance for that). The Anti Raids Network is a good place to start, for information, and there are many local groups that you can contact to form civil resistance groups to help prevent illegal raids and activities by BF agents.

https://antiraids.net/about/

It’s a nasty, nasty environment this government is creating. It’s our collective responsibility to act against it.

Well done all those in Glasgow who acted to defend their community. No-one is illegal.

Did I misunderstand or did Police Scotland effectively side with the people?  On the day at least.

Fair play to Patel, she managed to unite the Scottish  Government / SNP, Scottish Labour, the local indigenous community, the local immigrant community and Police Scotland.

All she needs to do now is to declare world peace a bad idea and weapons manufacturers will be going bankrupt everywhere.

Police Scotland have nothing to do with immigration enforcement though. They were only there to maintain order. Border Force are the ones pulling people out of their homes and slinging them in vans.

Border force are a form of police. They might not be called that, but they have some legal authority and seem keen to use it.

Did I misunderstand or did Police Scotland effectively side with the people?

Police Scotland did, but not for the reasons most were gathered. They decided the best course of action to disperse the crowds, given we are still in a pandemic and mass gatherings are probably not a good idea for the general safety of the public, was to release the men being detained, thereby removing the need for immediate protest.

Scotland just keeps getting better.

Brilliant stuff.

Sorry; I just have to correct a mistake I made in my earlier post. I referred to the powers BF agents have, and stated they cannot arrest you. Well, they sort of can, but they have to have ‘reasonable’ suspicion that a person is in breach of the law regarding immigration and the right to remain in the UK etc. They are not allowed to detain you simply on how you look, though, so if they stop a black person purely on the grounds of their race, that is illegal. They also cannot enter a premises without the permission of the tenant or landlord/property owner. They are legally obliged to identify themselves, give good reason why they’ve stopped you, to inform you you do not have to answer any questions, and to inform you that you are not under arrest and free to leave at any time. All this information can be found on the anti-raids network website I linked to above.

I think it was especially beautiful given that exchange last week in Glasgow between NS and the nasty Britain First racist who was claiming that the people of south Glasgow had had enough of immigration.

Good work Glasgow, very best of humanity on display there.

I really hope John Smeaton was the guy under the bus! I will use any excuse to watch this again, and again, and again
Glasgow doesn’t accept this, we’ll set about you.

One reason this was so good and so successful was that so many people and institutions came together to prevent border force from acting. Individuals, voluntary organisations, the neighbourhood,politicians at all levels and of most parties ( with the notable exception of the Tories), the kirk. Police Scotland who took a holistic view of the incident. Despite what Maggie Thatcher said, there is such a thing as society. More of this please

indeed. The guy sat on the floor, with the pinky hair, behind the van, he’s a good mate of my wife. he saw that the van was there and that there were about 5 or so people blocking the van in, clocked what was going on and felt he had to do something. went out in his PJ’s, sat on the floor and tweeted what was going on. more came and did the same.
awesome stuff.

Definite proud Weegie / proud Scot moment. Even beats Farage getting drummed out of Edinburgh.

franksinatra, we were saying exactly the same this morning. Smeato! What a legend!

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— Cold War Steve (@Coldwar_Steve) May 14, 2021

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cable_Street

Here’s the really heartwarming thing about this.

In recent months, a guy, and I’m not going to name him because he doesn’t deserve the publicity, has taken to wandering around neighbouring Govanhill livestreaming his walks and basically painting the place as entirely populated by foreigners who are all paedophiles, criminals, people traffickers, filthy etc. Specifically targeting the Eastern European, Roma and Muslim population. All completely baseless accusations and claims the failure to act on these baseless accusations is part of a government and police conspiracy.

He’s built up a ridiculous following on social media. Something like 20,000 followers on his Facebook page. The amount of support and racism spouted by his followers has been very disappointing. Basically all foreigners should be deported etc. Any attempt to call bullshit on his output had you labelled as a paedo sympathiser

The guy, based on reports that came out elsewhere, is a renowned charlatan. Small time criminal himself, drug dealer, questionable private life etc

To then see the actions in Glasgow yesterday filled me with renewed hope that this idiots followers are not representative of my city. And I’m sure this cretin will be fuming at the support these asylum seekers received from the people of the city

You’re talking about a city that in 1986 changed a street name in protest. Making the address of The South African Consulate…. Nelson Mandela place. 😂

And in 1919kicked off for shorter hours to create more jobs for the recently demobbed. That got them soldiers and tanks on the streets in retaliation Churchill was a lovely guy.

You’re talking about a city that gave the world this………… 😁

I liked it when the cone went black 6 months ago.

Let us be honest, Glasgow has a history enmeshed with tobacco and the slavery that produced it. And the architecture is very similar to Bristol or Liverpool (posh, paid for by slavery).

But Glasgow, and Bristol, possibly Liverpool, are a aware of that and trying to move forwards, not through hand wringing, but through recognising Nelson Mandela with the keys to the city, winding up the South African consulate, and this week standing up against Patel’s sectarianism and racism.

If ever a city needed “it’s not where your from, it’s where we’re going” or embodied it more.

It gives you hope. It’s also where I’m from, and at the margins I’ll try to take it to the world.

Whoever it was, nicely pitched, you captured Glasgow as well as BLM.  That’s how you subvert and protest.

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2C116EF/a-black-lives-matter-cone-has-been-placed-on-the-duke-of-wellington-statue-in-front-of-goma-the-former-mansion-of-lord-william-cunninghame-of-lainshaw-during-a-black-lives-matter-protest-in-glasgow-2C116EF.jpg

BoardingBob, if you are talking about a Mr Cairnie i spent a fair bit of time with him in a previous life. Mad as a box of frogs then. Seems to have found his audience.

In my part of Kent its fair to say that the BF people would have been met with cheering crowds rather than protest.

It’s nice to see this very English disease being rejected by some on our little shared island.👍

Border Force = BF = “Britain First”

makes you think 🤔

mactheknife
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BoardingBob, if you are talking about a Mr Cairnie i spent a fair bit of time with him in a previous life. Mad as a box of frogs then. Seems to have found his audience

Yip. Thats him. Deeply unhinged. Attention seeker. Cocaine enthusiast.

Makes you proud. Happy with the scottish government response too.

Let us be honest, Glasgow has a history enmeshed with tobacco and the slavery that produced it. And the architecture is very similar to Bristol or Liverpool (posh, paid for by slavery).

There is a young rum company in Glasgow that had an “about” page that roughly went along the lines of.

“we developed this rum to celebrate the history of sugar and glasgow”

I’m sure it was unintentional but jesus how can you be so unaware!

Makes me proud to be Glaswegian although I hate the term weegies as I always thought that it was a slightly derogatory term from the east coast.

One thing that amazes me about this whole episode is who thought this would be a good idea to sanction this? Doing this in the FM’s constituency on Eid during a lockdown! Was it an attempt to engineer a negative situation to discredit the SNP/FM. It apears to have backfired spectaculary!

NB I believe the 2 guys involved were Sikhs, but immigration/racism is a sensitive subject for the area.