More specifically I think I hate other people on trains.

I thought I’d seen it all when I had to ask a man to stop clipping his nails after a stray toenail landed in my coffee, but the bar has been lowered even further by the couple who just changed their baby’s nappy on the table and lobbed the shit-filled bundle (the nappy, not the baby) in the bin under the seat.

Has put me right off my Twix.

Bluergh.

What part of the country are you?

I have noticed a dip in ‘standards’ on trains – it’s becoming common to find people taking over the whole table or sitting in someone else’s reserved seats etc.

Have you thought you’re maybe a bit of a sensitive soul? While that’s a bit grim, I cannot imagine that ever putting me off eating food (not sure a Twix counts as food though).

Think my own toenail in my coffee would put me off drinking it, let alone someone else’s!

Have you thought you’re maybe a bit of a sensitive soul?

Let me guess, you don’t wash your hands after going to the toilet?

Seriously? The whole carriage stinks of shit and there’s a skid mark on the table, but you’d quite happily munch your dinner without being bothered at all?

Not convinced by the use of the word “sensitive” as an insult either. I’m a proud member of the leftist wokerati.

Sound to me like you hate people, not trains.

Which is entirely reasonable.

When he wrote L’enfer c’est les autres, Satre was on the 07.15 from Hebden to Leeds central. 

Most memorable recently: I had was a women who was “liquidly emotional” at 11.00am on a train from Manchester Vic to Newcastle and she loudly told the entire carriage (although she was speaking on the phone to her mate) about the shitty sex she’d had the night before and how disappointed she was with the flowers that he’d bought her after he’d chucked up on her duvet..

Have you thought you’re maybe a bit of a sensitive soul? While that’s a bit grim, I cannot imagine that ever putting me off eating food (not sure a Twix counts as food though).

Being put off your food because there is a steaming pile of fresh human faeces on the table directly in front of you hardly makes you a ‘sensitive soul’.

Congratulations on your cast iron stomach but you must have had a pretty rough upbringing if you think that’s acceptable!

Funny that nickc!

Being put off your food because there is a steaming pile of fresh human faeces on the table directly in front of you hardly makes you a ‘sensitive soul’.

I’m a proud member of the leftist wokerati.

You’ll be eating tofu next.

@flaperon – i feel your pain. The general public are largely awful people and or idiots.

@nickc – on the rare occasion i find myself on a train these days i always seem to have someone like that making their business my business! Makes for a good story though.

When i lived in Berkshire the last train from London to Reading was always a lottery…..there could be a punch up, pull a girl, a lively debate, end up at a party……it was fantastic!! 😀

Buses are worse.

Hospital waiting rooms are worse still.

My guess is that prison is the worst but I can’t confirm firsthand.

Have you tried taking medication? Medication can make situations like this easier to manage.

Thinking back to when my kids were younger, if I had to change a nappy, I  would either go into vestable end or use the changing table above the loos. I think I used the loos. 

Agree with @thenorthwind sounds like hate people (who are kn@bs). 

One of my boys once climbed onto a table in the middle of the lounge of the CalMac ferry to Mull, and proudly pissed himself.  He was 2, but I was not impressed. The table has a slight lip, and the  pee sloshed backwards and forwards with the motion of the ship. I did clean it all up.

I hate people on trains. Working on the Forth Bridge the walk to work each morning was sullied by the **** who took a dump each morning in North Queensferry then flushed as he got to the north approach viaduct. We were greeted by a cloud of piss and shit accelerating towards us and all we calould do is turn around hunker down and close your eyes and mouth….

Have you thought you’re maybe a bit of a sensitive soul? While that’s a bit grim, I cannot imagine that ever putting me off eating food

Could I ask what would put you off eating food? Is someone else’s toenail in your drink and the sight and smell of baby shit not enough? 😜

Are you Rambo? 🤣

Behaviour like this and the generally parlous state of our rail network is a not insignificant part of why we have such an insanely car centric culture. Before the pile on I know there are lots of other significant factors that contribute as well.

A few years back I tried to start a little blog about cutting car use right back and making more sustainable choices mainly centred around converting my car commute to the train.  I think I wrote about three posts before I realised on our local line it was more likely to act as an incentive to buy a big automatic car and sit in traffic jams.

I never sit down on trains. Always stand in the corridor. Mainly because I can’t be arsed with people and thankfully my train journeys are short.

No wonder threads in this place fall apart, its misanthropic central.

Crikey. Thank the Lord we don’t have the gun ownership issues they have in the States. I didn’t know such judgemental superior beings lurked amongst us. 🙄 Although it is only STW.

👍 Misanthropy! That’s the word I was searching for  thank you.

An overly hot and humid and busy commuter carriage on a cold wet day when everyone’s wearing too many layers and sneezing and coughing but pointedly ignoring each other but at that same time letting each other they hate one another in a misanthropic passive aggressive is way and everyone hating the shouty phone person and the baby who won’t stop crying and it’s mother struggling with the problem in the face of hostile indifference and the arse with the massive bags and the **** in your seat who has developed a case of manners in a coma and the train you’re on is not the train you paid a bastard fortune for but the shittier smellier more delapidated replacement service that came so late it’s barely worth getting on it…is a near perfect metaphor for modern Britain 

Covid anosmia FTW 🙂

My train rides are generally civilized. Not had any updates on previous night’s bedroom athletics on the 08:30 from Windsor (yet).

I don’t think asking for just a little bit of common courtesy is being judgemental 🤷‍♀️

Wonderful announcement from the guard on last nights 16.17 Northern service from Nottingham to Leeds:

“Due to equipment failure at the Sheffield depot we have no working ticket machines or readers, so I will not be walking through the carriages. It’s not that I’m being lazy, there’s just no point.”

No wonder threads in this place fall apart, its misanthropic central.

Is that on the line out of Victoria, somewhere near Dorking Deepdene?

@GlenQuagmire

It’s not the “lack of courtesy” that triggers the judgemental comment, it’s over use of the word “hate”.

People get weird when around trains IME, I saw a guy the other day literally vibrating with anticipation whilst waiting to get on. The doors hadn’t opened and he was blocking the doors so the other people couldn’t get off. The train had plenty of seats for everyone. You’d never think that we had been through a pandemic, people coughing, sneezing and spluttering away. Making no attempt to cover their mouth. Grim.
As for people sitting in reserved seats, I see plenty of empty seats that are apparently reserved, I think its to do with people booking cheap returns and only using the ticket one way. Maybe other passengers have worked out that the seat might actually be free even though it says it’s reserved.

Due to equipment failure at the Sheffield depot we have no working ticket machines or readers, so I will not be walking through the carriages. It’s not that I’m being lazy, there’s just no point.

I love it when you get someone with a bit of humour and humanity dealing with issues like this. Forget the corporate lingo here just go straight in with the stand up comic style of delivery.

As for people sitting in reserved seats, I see plenty of empty seats that are apparently reserved, I think its to do with people booking cheap returns and only using the ticket one way. Maybe other passengers have worked out that the seat might actually be free even though it says it’s reserved.

+1 , trick is to find 2 seats reserved from different stations, unlikely anyone will sit next to you and if you do get kicked off you only have to move one seat.

Driver on Monday was great at keeping us updated as we were going through Storm Debi (not to be confused with Debi Storm), we made it to Manchester, delayed a bit but still got there. 

The solution is to stump up more £££ and travel in the big seats in 1st class.  

Less chavvy behaviour

The bus is just as bad. Wet day, bus is packed and its wetter inside from condensation that it is outside. But will anyone crack a window open to let the atmosphere clear? bunch of dummies. As ever its left to me.

Sometimes I can even convince another passenger to open one near them. And within 10 mins the condensation on the windows is gone and you can breath clearly.

Got to laugh at some folk, if you think it’s judgemental to “hate” someone that ends up putting toenail clippings in your drink or leaves smeared shit on a table you really need to either change the company you keep or stay away from everyone else. This isn’t a judgy ‘look at the povvo’ thing, it’s just basic decency. Clatty bastards like that should be thrown off.

As for people sitting in reserved seats, I see plenty of empty seats that are apparently reserved, I think its to do with people booking cheap returns and only using the ticket one way.

I’m part of the problem.

The problem is corporate drones like myself who use a travel booker, you ask for a table seat in the quiet coach and they book you an airline seat in the party coach. So you phone the train operator (because you didnt book direct) and they book you the correct seat. But don’t cancel the wrong one. Why? Who knows…

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I hate people on trains. Working on the Forth Bridge the walk to work each morning was sullied by the **** who took a dump each morning in North Queensferry then flushed as he got to the north approach viaduct. We were greeted by a cloud of piss and shit accelerating towards us and all we calould do is turn around hunker down and close your eyes and mouth….

I forgot you worked on the NR bridges, I normally get to dive for cover but there have been one or two close calls where I have had to apply the “if all else fails don’t look up” rule.

I never sit down on trains. Always stand in the corridor. Mainly because I can’t be arsed with people and thankfully my train journeys are short.

same here, I usually just stand in the vestibule, in the old days when we could open train windows I’d open it and get the fresh air in and sound of the ‘thrash’ of the loco upfront…

now we’re hermetically sealed in on trains in the UK and there’s hardly a loco anywhere left these days hauling passenger stock, standing in the vestibule normally means being close to a smelly loo too…

still, I would rather stand than be sat next to someone eating their McDs or whatever, and playing stuff out loud on their phone etc, shame really, our trains are not what they used to be 🙁

I see plenty of empty seats that are apparently reserved, I think its to do with people booking cheap returns and only using the ticket one way. Maybe other passengers have worked out that the seat might actually be free even though it says it’s reserved.

That’s what I do, the intercity from Leeds to London, and vice versa can get rammed sometimes, so I take my chances and sit in a reserved seat if needed (I will of course move or stand if the ticket holder actually turns up).

More often than not a large proportion of seats with reserved tickets just sit empty, or might only be reserved from Grantham to Kings cross or Doncaster to leeds whatever, so you can hedge your bets a bit.

I love it when you get someone with a bit of humour and humanity dealing with issues like this.

Conductor once announced we would soon be arriving at ‘Cottingley international’ on the way into Leeds, and some other airline realted funnies,…it certainly raised an audiable chuckle from most of the commuters on a miserable monday morning!

Not sure if it was because it was funny or people were supprised they could actually hear the announcement over the speakers, probably a bit of both.  😀

now we’re hermetically sealed in on trains in the UK

It’s because people would occasionaly stick an arm or head out of the window, and get decapitated by an overgrown tree or something.

This is why we can’t have nice things.

I love trains