- How specific are Maxxis Shorty
I’m not really one for swapping tyres, but the muddy slop on some of the steep traversing trails in the valleys around here are testing the limit of my minions. If I throw a shorty on the front is is going to be OK on the mud, and then crap everywhere else? Are they just for sloppy conditions? will it be shockingly bad when it starts to dry out a bit?Posted 2 years ago
big bits of rock you can feel it getting wandery if you push it.
this is my worry, I ride in Calderdale and it’s an odd mix of sloppy muddy valley sides with gritstone flags and slabs. while I’m mostly content with Minion, they struggle to bite into the slop, but are excellent of the rocks, I might be just swapping where the tyres work well.Posted 2 years agomilky1980Member
Tried a Shorty on the front last winter in 3C compound, found the side lugs quickly wore round and stumpy whereas the centre tread was nearly new so it lost most of it’s grip! This was a mix of natural Beacons riding and the odd trial centre. Switched to a DHRII in 3C and it’s much longer lasting and 9/10ths of the mud grip but better everywhere else. Still wearing faster on the sides than the centre but then that’s to be expected with the compound and I tend to wear all my tyres that way regardless, too much time going round corners 😀Posted 2 years agoStevelolMember
I’m a Kirklees and Calderdale rider, and have been using a Der Baron Projekt for 6 months or so, it’s wearing well and is a great all rounderer, it doesn’t shed quite as well as a Beaver/Mud X but digs in well and is superb everywhere else.
I bought a 3C Shorty but haven’t tried it yet. I’ve been in MEGA SLOP at Wharncliffe today and thought I’d regret not trying the Shorty but the Baron was superb, don’t be a dick in corners and keep speed up so it sheds and it is great.Posted 2 years agob rMember
I’ve run a Shorty since late summer (Scotland can be ‘wet’) on the front. And for Christmas one of my lads got me a new one.
So put the old one on the back – both 2.3 3C 29er.
Their only real failing are slippery roots and rocks, otherwise they’re great, especially on the many off-piste trails we have in the Tweed Valley. Looking forward, I’ll replace the worn rear with a Minion, but the Shorty will stay on the front.Posted 2 years agoTreksterSubscriber
Fitted/used a Shorty for the first time on the ‘puffer with a Mary. On the rear, think I have finally found a tyre combination to suit my bike and raise my confidence. Due to numerous reasons I’ve not ridden my bike since then but am looking forwRd to getting out on my local ‘Enduro’ trails to verify the initial impression 😀Posted 2 years agogravesendgruntMember
A pair of Schwalbe Fat Albert Fronts have been a great all round high volume winter tyre for me,I’ve been running a set since October and they’ve been pretty darn good everywhere-not the best for pushing on hardpack style corners but not terrible.Nice supple carcass,trailstar compound so nice and grippy,great mud cleaning,comfortable volume and smooth(but not fast) rolling on harder surfaces inc roads.Posted 2 years ago
On pure grip, the Magic Mary is a better tyre, IMO. The Shorty is a more intermediate spike. It rolls faster than the Mary as well.
But, the Mary has a lifespan measured in minutes. A day of uplifted riding can see the side knobs tearing at the base, and from that point onwards the tyre is junk.Posted 2 years agoBigmantrialsSubscriber
Bike radar tire test:
The Spesh Hill Billy came out well, similar looking to the shorty but better and faster rolling in their opinion.
Plus their only £35.
Not tried one myself but tempted to try the 29 version.
I ran a Hillbilly 2.3 on my 29er last winter, not ridden much this winter so not felt the need to stick it on, the few times I have been out the Butcher control has been fine.
I was very impressed with the Hillbilly, deffinitely an underrated tyre, it is not particularly wide, it is noticably narrower than the butcher 2.3 however this deffinitely helps when the going gets really wet and muddy, I found it to shed mud really well and maintained grip in places I know the Butcher would have been struggling previously.
Its currently hung on the wall in the shed, but will deffinitely be going back on if/when I need it. Great value for money too!Posted 2 years agorocketmanMember
Last winter I used a folding SHorty on the front of the big bike and it was better than the Minion it replaced in general-purpose loose dirt but I felt the tread was writing cheques the carcass couldn’t cash. This year I’ve been using a wire-bead 3C Shorty and it has that feel-good go-where-you-point-it stability that was missing from the folder. Generally though the Shorty is what it says it is – loose dirt/rubble/wet/dry but not particularly confidence-inspiring on rocks. Minion has the edge in hardpack conditions.
I think my Magic Mary SuperGravityVertStar covered a wider range of conditions than either of them but it didn’t last very longPosted 2 years agodeviantMember
I have a Hill Billy, looks great for a rear with a Mary up front….however I cannot bastard seat the bloody thing and give up with grazed knuckles, lots of swearing etc after about an hour!
Very much liking 2.4 DHR’s on the front at the moment, that’s a beast of a tyre in all but the worst slop.Posted 2 years agoJonEdwardsMember
On the whole I’m a pretty big fan of them – Peaks riding, most of the year. They’re not draggy like a full on mud tyre, but are definitely better on that horrible clay mud we have or loam than a Minion or an HR II. Not had any issues with roots, and there’s plenty of them on some of the cheeky stuff/Wharncliffe etc. They’re even not bad on green Limestone!
Re the side knobs wearing quick – completely agree, however IME they’re rather longer lasting than an HRII (can trash the side knobs on those in no time) or a Minion (a couple of months). The knobs are bigger and more solidly moulded so don’t fold over as easily when worn. As of yesterday I’ve decide the one on the front of my Rocket is dead, but that went on about Nov 2015 and was only off for a couple of months last summer, so I’m happy with that.Posted 2 years ago
By far the most popular front tyre choice when I’ve been riding with groups in Calderdale.
Y’know I don’t know anyone who rides with Magic Marys! Nearly everyone use a maxxis of some sort
I can get through a minion on the front in about 9-10 months I think, ordered a shorty, see how it goes, if it dries up and the sun comes out, you can all thanks me 😆Posted 2 years agochiefgrooveguruMember
I replaced my Shorty with… a shorty 2.5, for this winter. It’s pretty slow rolling but is otherwise pretty much incredible, the extra girth gives it much better grip on rock and harder stuff without really taking anything away (apart from a bit more drag). Ace.
Ditto. Though I haven’t tried the 2.5 on much wet rock it’s a whole load better on wet roots and in harder drier conditions. Liking the Shorty 2.3 on the back instead of the DHR2 when it’s filthy.Posted 2 years ago
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