helmets useless in major bike accidents says new study
I’m still going to wear one, because it makes me look tougher.Posted 6 years agojoao3v16Member
Correct me if I’m wrong, but that article is basically just stating the bleeding obvious.
And just to highlight how stupid society can be:
“People die from smoking all the time but no one is banning cigarettes”
To which I’d like to add:
“People are killed by motorists all the time but no one is banning cars”
🙄 Humans eh, mad as cheesePosted 6 years agoMr AgreeableSubscriber
I don’t think there’s anything contradictory in being pro-helmet but anti-compulsion.
The debate gets muddied because people on both sides overreact. So you’ve got the “a helmet saved my life” brigade (How exactly do you prove that, without cloning yourself and conducting some extremely unethical experiments?) versus the “helmets make you mroe likely to die” TJ brigade.
I do have a little wince when I see people riding off road without them, but that’s because falling off is quite a commonplace and acepted part of it for most people. Not so with bimbling round the park or riding in traffic.Posted 6 years agomr plowMember
All sounds about right. You can’t tell someone to wear a helmet because you might crash into them with your actions and don’t want the fall out. But, if helmets save the tax payer cash through less minor injuries in A&E etc then I am all for making people wear them… 😆Posted 6 years agobinnersSubscriber
He’s going to be faced with a serious dilemma here.
On the one hand, it validates what he’s
relentlessly banging on aboutsaying
On the other hand, it was in the Metro, which is published by the fascists who own the Daily Mail. So every fibre of his being will be telling him it must be lies and misinformation
His head may explode. Will a helmet be a good or bad thing if that happens?Posted 6 years agoclubberMember
‘Looking at evidence, it does not matter if people are wearing a helmet or not, any serious accident on a bike is likely to kill them,’ said Dr Carwyn Hooper, from St George’s University of London.
It’s a bit like saying that wearing a helmet wouldn’t save a passenger in a car involved in a major accident that crushes it.
It’s not new either, is it? Did anyone ever think that a bike helmet would save them in a major accident?
I’ll still wear mine every time I’m out on the bike.Posted 6 years agochiefgrooveguruMember
It’s not the major accidents I’m worried about, it’s being seriously injured or killed from a head wound in a minor accident which could have been avoided had I been wearing a helmet. We used to rent a house whose previous owner (our landlord’s brother) had had a low speed bike/pedestrian accident on Brighton seafront, hit his head on the kerb (no helmet), went into a coma, then died.Posted 6 years agodrookitmunterMember
I’ve had loads of accidents on my bike resulting in broken bones, surgery, metal plates and wires.
I’m 100% certain that if I was not wearing a helmet when I had most of these accidents my head would have been damaged.
Why do I think this? ‘Cause I’ve destroyed 2 helmets.
I’d rather destroy a helmet than my head. Granted if a massive dumper truck splats me a helmet won’t help much, but in most of the less mental accidents I have had it’s stopped me opening up my skull.
I don’t think people should be forced to wear them though – do what you want!Posted 6 years agojoao3v16Member
When I was 7 I was once hit on the head by a first aid kit falling out of a storage loft whilst I was waiting for someone to pass down some stuff.
I took up cycling several years later, and I always wear a helmet, which is why I wasn’t immediately killed to death by that first aid kit.
This is a fact. Helmets clearly save lives.
I have also never bumped my head in any situation since I’ve been a cyclist.
What more evidence do you need?Posted 6 years agoIanMunroMember
For anyone wishing to read the paper rather than rely on the media’s account of it –Posted 6 years ago
Did anyone ever think that a bike helmet would save them in a major accident?
I think there’s a perception amongst the general public that they do. How many times do we see newspaper stories of cyclists being killed by a lorry or somesuch, with the quote “the cyclist wasn’t wearing a helmet”?Posted 6 years agomuddymanMember
I fancey doing a study on the effects of full face helmets for shopping ! Im pretty sure it would save a number of accidents as would strapping a mattress to your self or wearing steal toe cap boots while knitting !! doesnt make it a good idea though does it !? 👿 dont get me wrong i always wear a helmet off road through choice !Posted 6 years agoaracerSubscriber
What a dumbass report
Not at all. Some things which are “obvious” aren’t actually true, and people tend to have different ideas of what is obvious. A study proving such a basic point is actually pretty useful – it provides proper scientific proof. As mentioned, plenty of media are happy to make a point that a cyclist isn’t wearing a helmet in such a major crash, when it’s unlikely for them to report the lack of seatbelt of somebody driving over a cliff.Posted 6 years agoaracerSubscriber
I dunno, you put a relatively obvious-to-insiders thread title up, and it gets changed to something completely in-yer-face.
I didn’t know we got subedited……makes me look as though I write for mental incompetents.
The original is still visible in the URL 😉
I think it’s deemed to be trolling – you should think yourself lucky, I’ve had similar titled threads deleted!Posted 6 years agokcrMember
etc, etc, etc…Posted 6 years agoTandemJeremyMember
“helmets make you mroe likely to die” TJ brigade.
Can I just make my position clear again cos this is not it.
!) cycling is safe and some forms the risk of head injury is so low at millions to one that I am prepared to accept that minuscule risk for the pleasure of riding helmet free. Other times I will wear one when risks are higher
2) helmets are much less effective than most people believe and in some circumstance exacerbate injury. They are very good at protecting from cuts a grazes, not much use with major impacts. But “Helmet saved me from a bruised head” is not much of a headline
This is all backed by good robust dataPosted 6 years agomtMember
NEWS. fire exstinguisher useless in major blaze.
OTHER NEWS. Report in newspaper states the bleed1n obvious!
TJ I almost totally agree with you on the helmet stuff but from personal head banging experiance and seeing a few nasty crashes, I’d always stick on me bonce bucket off road. Often it’s those unexpected slow crashes that do the damage. “Helmet saved me from a bruised head” is a good comment to make a point but most helmets will do a bit better than that. Have fun.Posted 6 years agocynic-alMember
helmets are much less effective than most people believe and in some circumstance exacerbate injury
I would hope, particularly after the extent of the debate (that google search gave ma a LOL) that most folk here would accept the limitations of helmets for major impacts.
Perhaps it’s time to make helmets that are as good as doing what they do now (protection from lacerations & bruising), not quite so good at deceleration, but are more compact, lighter, durable? I expect standards would get in the way.Posted 6 years agohoraMember
Another day, another pointless study.
“80% of cyclists deaths were wearing a helmet”
I immediately thought if an accident is serious enough its a ‘hit by a bus, truck or car’ in a big way. I’ve seen the aftermath of a truck thats run over a cyclist. The helmet was in pieces.
I’ve washed out on the road etc – I’d prefer to wear a helmet thanks.Posted 6 years ago
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