- How do you get the bike knowledge?
Have an old HT i’d like to upgrade but dont know where to start in terms of components to buy and how to fit. How, for example, does one know what rear mech to buy in terms of right size/type for the bike/other components and in terms of what quality I might want? What is the best way to develop that sort of knowledge?Posted 7 years agoampthillSubscriber
Is it ride able? If it is then ride it. Then replacethe bit that work least well.
This is my guide to Shimano. Other people will have their own version of this….
Alivio, Acera. Work but a bit cheap and a pain the get running well
Deore. Works just fine
SLX XT etc. works a bit better weighs a bit less…….
What bike is it? Can you post a photo?Posted 7 years agocrazy-legsSubscriber
What’s the bike you’ve got? How old and in what condition?
Depends on the bike really – you may find that it’s simply not worth spending much on it anyway if it’s really old or cheap.
The “best” upgrade is usually regarded as being a good lightweight set of handbuilt wheels followed by new suspension forks, they’re the two things that will make the biggest difference to the ride.
As to how you find this stuff out… bike maintenance course, the Park Tools website is good for video tutorials of “how to…”, go to a library and borrow a bike maintenance book or just talk to your friendly local bike shop.Posted 7 years agowartonMember
you get to know about maintenance by doing it, park tools website is a great starting point, my one tip would be to get a cheap workstand, it transformed my attitude to fixing stuff.
Learn about what to replace with by talking to people in shops, on here, other forums, read mags, visit websites, read reviews thats how I do itPosted 7 years agooldgitMember
Mountainbike mechanics are pretty simple.Posted 7 years ago
With your bike in front of you and the internet to hand you should be able to work out anything.
Rear mechs for example will be 5/6/7/8/9 speed and are replaced like for like. Same applies to chains, cassettes, shifters and front mechs.
Bottom brackets are usually labeled with the size, you’ll need to learn the differences between square taper, Octalink ISIS etc. Bottom brackets are one of the few things that need specific tools as well.
Bars, stems and headsets come in two sizes 1″ ans 1 1/8″ threaded and Ahead, and bars in satandard? and OS oversize.
For things like forks you really need to see what travel your bike was designed for, a 100mm fork on a frame that took 63mm will be terrible.
It’s all there for you.
For older bikes getting cabling right makes a great difference, as does recognising wear and dealing with it.dufresneoramaMember
The guys/girls here on STW have provided me with invaluable advice. I’m now on my 3rd and 4th full builds and tbh I like the techy aspect of cycling just as much as cycling itself!
I can pretty much guarantee that if you get stuck on something, someone else has been stuck on the same issue and asked about it.Posted 7 years agojonbMember
After you’ve tried park tools and sheldon brown use google. There is a wealth of information out there. Plenty of video instructions too.
Take it slow when you first start. It’s normally best to have the right tools rather than bodge. The shimano website has a huge amount of information and technical documents to make sure you know what you have and are getting. Exploded diagrams of components based on part numbers.
It’s not that hard. Changing bits over is normally just a case of looking up the right component and buying it then unscrewing the old one and screwing on a new one.
This forum will provide you with an answer if you get really stuck.Posted 7 years agobuzz-lightyearMember
Go to a friendly bike shop. Explain that if you order through them to do a self build you’d like to be able to ask them technical advice and maybe get them to fit the odd part eg headset. Buy a complete tool kit if you can. The park book and website are good guides as is shedon
So you will learn and build a useful relationship with your bike shop that is worth the premium you will pay by ordering through the shop.Posted 7 years agostavaiganMember
Many thanks for your responses. oldgit kind of exeplifies where I want to get to. For the record, and from what I can still make out, my HT is an Orange Evo2- manitou magnum forks; orange supercross 2 bars, Avid AD3? brakes, WTB speed masters wheels, deore hubs, ritchey scuzzy logic headset. Upgrade suggestions welcome. Appreciate probably wont be worth the cost but its about the learning as much as the cost.Posted 7 years agoandrewhMember
It’s a lot to do with confidence too. Plenty of people put off by something that looks complicated but is actually really easy.
The first time you do something will be the hardest as it will take you 3hrs to figure out what the easy way is and then it will take you 5 miutes.
Maybe worth getting an old BSO for £20 and taking it completely apart and then seeing if you can get it back together again? Any local friends any good? Have a look and see what the inside of a headset/hub/BB looks like before you practice on your own shiney/expensive one.
Far more pleasent experience doing it on a clean bike too.Posted 7 years agoStan_DingupMember
Your Evo 2 frame is a great place to start. It was what I got into mtb from.
Forks will be old elastomer manitou which will be terrible. It is designed for 80mm travel and you will struggle to find bargain 80mm forks that are worth having.
I have mine set up with 420mm rigid carbon forks from http://www.carboncycles.cc ( or similar)
Replace the drive train as it wears out and the contact points as you understand what you need and you will have a very nice ride…
StanPosted 7 years agoEdric 64Member
If you are rich or own a bike shopPosted 7 years agoTheArtistFormerlyKnownAsSTRSubscriber
It’s just not as hard as it may seem.
I taught myself at around 12-13yrs old – my parents were skint, so I saved up and bought myself a Raleigh Bomber ‘Super’, then a Raleigh Pulsar road bike.
I tinkered and I read books about them – I looked on in awe as my old man (step dad) bought a Muddy Fox Courier and his mate had some ‘fancy’ Dawes ‘proper’ mountain bike.
At that age I’d probably have avoided most things with bearings and spokes, but I was learning – some pals couldn’t even sort a flat tyre.
I still wouldn’t know where to start building a wheel and servicing forks remains the domain of the experts – I suppose the rest of it is quite simple to me, but to that extent shouldn’t really be outside the comfort zone of anyone given a bit of practice and research.Posted 7 years ago
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