Home made GPS with mapping and tracking
Same as someone else on this thread has done.
A standard SRAM/Garmin out front mount with this adapter attached to the phone (the the top adapter section cut off for a flat surface and then 2 or 4 screws to mount the phone or case to it) to mount it.Posted 4 years ago
I’ve now fitted the adapter as pictured above, using some pop rivets:
It works perfectly now though as I have a spare back for the phone (because of the ‘accident’ earlier in the thread…) I think I’m going to redo it with the adapter closer to the middle of the phone so that the phone sits a little closer to the stem. Or possibly as another alternative, to mount the phone landscape.Posted 4 years agocookeaaSubscriber
I’ve been toying with acquiring a Cheapo “Galaxy Y” (£30 from Carphone whorehouse apparently ATM, ebay seems to be awash with them too but the bidding goes silly for some reason) it’s got the required basics, GPS and Wifi and will take a micro SD card, stock it comes with a 1200 mAh battery, but higher capacity ones are knocking about on ebay, it can be charged from USB (say at work) run in no-sim/flight mode I think it would make a really good “poor mans Garmin”…
And I like the “Out front” mountings some of you have come up with…
The only issue being weather tightness, but that’s easily enough overcome… Currently using my S2 (my main phone) as a logging device/bike computer and I bought a 3500 mAh battery to use in place of the standard 1600 mAh one it’ll run for hours like that, but I’d still rather use a cheaper more basic alternative phone if I can…
I’m using the Sports tracker app for my “Cycle computer Display” (with Strava logging in the background too) and I’ve found it pretty good, but I might try IPbike, it looks pretty good too, getting a good, useful information display is pretty key IMO…
I guess that’s the big advantage over a Garmin, you can run a pretty broad range of software on that one cheap device…
Also how many people are using a HRM with their Android phone?
And which ones?
I’m currently a bit confused over just what will be compatible with my Current S2 or for that matter any other android phone I might choose to use in the future, so far as I can tell a “Polar wearlink+” is the basic bluetooth model and will work with just about any phone, the H& is 5 kHz BLE enabled and there are differing reports of which phones and apps it will work with, ANT is probably out of the window for me, although some seem to think an ANT OTG jobbie and certain apps do the business…
My current thinking is I’ll just bite the bullet, buy myself a wearlink+ and get an even higher capacity battery to offset the Bluetooth chewing through it. But it’s not the ideal solution really and a wearlink+ or Zephyr HxM is still a few quid for what is basically old and inefficient technology…Posted 4 years ago
The Galaxy Y is (I think) smaller and more expensive than the Defy Mini SIM-free at the moment, but there’s not much in it. I’d be inclined to go with a Defy Mini for the modicum of weatherproofing it has.
The only issue being weather tightness, but that’s easily enough overcome…
What tips do folks have for weatherproofing normal Android phones? Anyone got a weatherproof charging solution going?Posted 4 years agoir_banditoSubscriber
What tips do folks have for weatherproofing normal Android phones? Anyone got a weatherproof charging solution going?
As I mentioned way, way up there ^
Top-tube frame bag with phone screen. Its fairly water-resistant, in heavy rain I put a cheap plastic bag over it 🙂
And for charging, I connect it to a SP PD8 hub (on the road bike, I’ve now got a PD8-X on the MTB too) via a Kemo M172N adaptor.Posted 4 years agocookeaaSubscriber
Defy Mini for £30? where from? I can only find them around the £65 – £80 mark online…
To “weatherproof” a phone I’ve been using something like this for a while:
but it ain’t a sexy solution…
For charging, I take it out and plug in the charger, are you looking for a way to charge it while left on the bike?
For the commuter I’ve got a big bar mounted bag with space for tools and tubes, and a phone pocket on top… that is brilliant, but bulky
I do fancy making my own “Out Front” type housing for a phone for my geared road bike just to keep things “minimal” yet functional and do away with the zip up carrier…Posted 4 years ago
@ir_bandito – sorry, late to the party as usual.
I’ve been using an UltimateAddons rugged handlebar case for my Galaxy S3 to run OruxMaps for a few months now, charging from an external USB battery pack. This works very well, other than the total lack of strain relief on the UltimateAddons USB charge cable, a problem I solved using Sugru.
Always interested in other solutions though, especially ones which might work when I’ve moved on from the S3… work’s phone, so won’t be with me forever.Posted 4 years ago
Defy Mini for £30? where from? I can only find them around the £65 – £80 mark online
No, they’re both around this sort of price SIM-Free from what I can see. You can get the Galaxy Y for £30 on a PAYG contract from Carphone Warehouse.
Looking to get a dynamo and/or external battery charging solution rocking at some point, so cases with a power lead option are a plus, hence my going for the UltimateAddons solution.Posted 4 years agosoma_richMember
I like this idea:
Think I might try it out, review here:Posted 4 years ago
My Defy Minis have been on ebay and about £35-40 ish – I just set up an alert for one under £40 on buy-it-now. They come up periodically so just snap it up as soon as you get an alert.
acjim – Member
clubber; Garmin mount looks good, can i ask what pop riveter you used? Not used one before and feel a gap in the toolkit! (would be useful to fix mudguards, kids toys etc)
It’s just a cheap rivet gun from ebay – £8 iirc. Rivets can be had for few quid. It’s certainly a useful tool to have.
OT but I also have a rivnut gun which is useful for replacing stipped bottle cage bolts in frames.Posted 4 years ago
I’m not convined that a non-mechanical fixing (unless you’re going going to use proper aerospace/etc type adhesive and preparation techniques) will ever be sturdy enough to hold a phone – they’re actually quite heavy and subjected to a lot of rattling around on the bars.Posted 4 years agomark90Member
A decent PU adhesive / sealer, eg Sikaflex or Tiger seal, should give a good strong bond. With a few mm bed it would give resonable vibration isolation too.
I could do pull ups on 18″ lengths of batton stuck to the roof of my camper conversion with the stuff.
Only draw back is it comes in big tubes so not efficient for small quantities.Posted 4 years ago
This may also be of interest: http://www.decathlon.co.uk/en/product/~product_id=8294081Posted 4 years ago
That looks very like an UltimateAddons soft case:
I have one of their rugged cases for my Galaxy S3, which I rate very highly other than one aspect.
I use the compatible charger cable with an external USB battery, and the strain relief on the power plug is non-existent. The lead broke on my second ride using it. I got a replacement and beefed up the strain relief and waterproofing of the plug using Sugru.Posted 4 years ago
I’m not sure the garmins are pointless – battery life means that they’re always going to have one big factor in their favour for longer rides.
I killed my defy mini – water got in unfortunately but I have a cheap Defy (not mini) that I’m going to try once I get round to it. I have found though that in the wet, the screen registers as though you’re touching it with your finger and goes a bit crazy. Need some sort of touch screen lock I reckon.Posted 3 years ago
Download your mapping onto your phone and then put it into Airplane mode while using it for navigation, it will use absolutely scads less battery that way. Only turn on comms or Wifi if you need to. Use an external USB battery pack to recharge overnight on multi-day trips, or just keep the internal battery topped up all the time.Posted 3 years ago
Download your mapping onto your phone and then put it into Airplane mode while using it for navigation, it will use absolutely scads less battery that way.
It’s the screen backlight that kills battery life IME.
My 605 is fine in bright sunlight. Not that we seem to ever have sun 🙂Posted 3 years agophildbMember
I use a 5000mAh USB battery pack with my Desire HD for navigation. The longest route I’ve done so far took 7 hours and I still had full phone charge and one bar of life left on the battery pack.Posted 3 years ago
I keep mine in a crossbar bag with phone window and the battery in with it so everything stays protected from the elements.
This might be of interest:
It mentions the Kyocera Hydro phones, the original of which is now available for buttons on eBay:
Not stellar spec but easily adequate for a bike GPS/phone I would have thought.Posted 3 years ago
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