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  • Here's a dick on a Brompton
  • cynic-al
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    What ben said.

    Too many cyclists think they own the road. Filtering should be done selectively.

    bencooper
    Free Member

    Too many cyclists think they’re hardcore road warrior couriers.

    user-removed
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    Crosshair – I said

    Filtering is legal.

    . But this makes me an arrogant knob somehow? Well, I’ve just woken up and have to rush out with big piles of kit to shoot a dog show. So I’m not in the best of moods. Quite frankly you can go **** yourself. ****.

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    crazy-legs
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    Ben: agree 100%, good blog. I only filter if I can see that the way ahead is sufficiently busy for me to have an advantage. If it’s a clear road, I’ll ease up, wait for the queue to start moving and slot in as it gets up to speed. It’s for my own safety too – every time someone overtakes it’s one more chance for them to hit me. The fewer overtakes, the safer my ride!

    wordnumb
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    To be honest I wanted too see the light jumper smack the whiny voiced toss pot in the face. Both dickheads, just for different reasons.

    To be honest I wanted tooooo see the light jumper and whiny voiced toss pot both realise they were wrong, hug strenuously and go for a coffee together for a weepy reconciliation of world-views.

    New rules for traffic lights: go when the light is the same colour as your jersey. (Pro tip: don’t wear blue)

    somouk
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    While the guy filming the whole incident is a muppet for putting it on line I doubt he had the camera there for the specific purpose of catching other cyclists. More so for evidence when a London bus knocks him off the road.

    The long and short of it is that there was no safety issue with the guy on the brompton stopping at the lights and he illegally crossed the red light and shouldn’t have. Rules be rules people and bending them is okay but breaking them isn’t.

    Would have been funny for them to have some silly fight moment akin to the one in the inbetweeners movie.

    piedidiformaggio
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    If it looks like a dick, sounds like a dick & acts like a dick, it’s a dick. He’s a dick.

    I once had a similar confrontation, but the dick in question was riding the wrong way along St Martin Le Grand in central London, which is 4 lanes wide and one way. Dawinism in action.

    andymc06
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    Crosshair is right on the car point. You are supposed to use all the lanes until they merge not create a 2 mile queue then have a hissy-fit because someone drives properly.

    (i am aware this point has been done-to-death in previous threads!)

    crosshair
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    But… have you never seen a road sign (whilst driving) telling you that the lanes merge into one in 500 yards? Then 300, then 200… And still, there is some cock overtaking almost into the line of cones, just to demonstrate the size of his penis, which is such a very large and important appendage?

    I was referring to this actually User-removed. No apology needed 🙂

    Mantastic
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    I was expecting a fight, very disappointed.

    But red light = stop and wait for green one, it really is that simple.

    fervouredimage
    Free Member

    To be honest I wanted to see the light jumper and whiny voiced toss pot both realise they were wrong, hug strenuously.

    Not really my sort of thing but fair enough.

    imnotverygood
    Full Member

    I think it is ok to call the idiot an idiot because it at least disabuses him of the notion that everyone else on a bike thinks it is acceptable to RLJ. It is the idea that it is ‘normal’ to do this that gives idiots the sense of entitlement. If they think their peers regard then as stupid and selfish I suspect more would stop at red.

    psling
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    But red light = stop and wait for green one, it really is that simple.

    The cyclist broke the law.
    Now, whether you choose to be selective about which laws you obey and which you ignore for whatever reason, whether through ignorance or by choice, is entirely up to you but if you get caught then all the arguing and reasoning in the world doesn’t change the fact that you broke the law and may have to suffer the consequences.

    dirk_pumpa
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    Jesus, i bet they both have vaginas.

    Euro
    Free Member

    cynic-al – Member

    Too many cyclists

    +1

    aka_Gilo
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    I’ve got no time for RLJers, but I’ve got even less time for sanctimonious tossers like the bloke with the camera. Hopefully he’ll annoy the wrong person sooner or later.

    fervouredimage
    Free Member

    Here’s a dick on a Brompton

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    samuri
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    crazy-legs has it. Just because one person behaves poorly doesn’t make the whole group of similar users the same. This earning respect stuff and one person tarring the whole group nonsense is simply that. If people treat all cyclists badly because they see one doing something stupid it’s a very easy argument to counter. Drivers kill people every day so all drivers are murderers. The sooner we knock that ridiculous talk on the head the better.

    As far this incident goes. He jumped a red light, end of. He’s an idiot for doing so. I’ve no idea why people think the camera man is an idiot. He hasn’t complained about the bloke coming back to argue, he welcomed the confrontation. He knew what would happen and took the opportunity to try and educate the other guy. I do the same thing, some people come back to argue which is fine, some people ignore me, which is also fine.

    psling
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    dirk_pumpa – Member
    Jesus, i bet they both have vaginas.

    Blimey, isn’t that rather discriminatory against women? 😯

    grum
    Free Member

    The initial ‘offence’ was something and nothing TBH but coming back to remonstrate with the guy was pretty dick-ish.

    dirk_pumpa
    Free Member

    Blimey, isn’t that rather discriminatory against women?

    Don’t forget the blasphemy.

    zippykona
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    Nearly a dick on a nearly Brompton.

    psling
    Free Member

    Don’t forget the blasphemy.

    Have to admit, that did make me chuckle 😆

    tpbiker
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    Guy on brompton clearly a dick, as are all cyclists that think its ok to ignore the rules of the road.

    As both a cyclist and a driver I see a far higher percentage of cyclists in the city centre that think they can be selective on what laws they follow than I do drivers

    compositepro
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    this is how it should have panned out car v cyclist

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VXRf1brpHCM

    cynic-al
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    If people treat all cyclists badly because they see one doing something stupid it’s a very easy argument to counter

    Beautiful in simplicity and principle, meaningless when you consider the “intellect” / “thought process” of the average driver.

    davidtaylforth
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    The guy on the brompton played it pretty cool, I thought the other guy looked more of an idiot

    “I see no problem, I’ll carry on jumping the lights” Then he drops him, cool as a cucumber, leaving laddo whining on “thirty pound fine mate, thirty pound fine!”

    It’s london, he probably earns £30 in five minutes worth of work

    tenfoot
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    If people treat all cyclists badly because they see one doing something stupid it’s a very easy argument to counter
    Beautiful in simplicity and principle, meaningless when you consider the “intellect” / “thought process” of the average driver.

    ^^^^^

    Unfortunately there are generalisms in all walks of life – all BMW drivers are arrogant, all football fans are morons etc which are brought on by a small minority, but this one can result in a human being going about their day being killed.

    People jumping red lights perpetuate the common feeling amongst the hard of thinking, that all cyclists are selfish twonks who don’t deserve the protection of the law or any courtesy on the road. It needs to stop, to protect other law abiding cyclists.

    Posting videos of it on YouTube doesn’t help, in my opinion, either.

    legend
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    davidtaylforth – Member
    The guy on the brompton played it pretty cool, I thought the other guy looked more of an idiot

    “I see no problem, I’ll carry on jumping the lights” Then he drops him, cool as a cucumber, leaving laddo whining on “thirty pound fine mate, thirty pound fine!”

    It’s london, he probably earns £30 in five minutes worth of work

    Did you watch the same video? Playing it cool would’ve involved flipping him the bird and continuing on his merry way, not coming back to a set of traffic lights declaring that he “takes great exception” to being called an idiot (poor wee lamb).

    And he doesn’t drop him, whiney-boy turns off.

    johnhe
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    I’m not being sarcastic, I genuinely thought the law had been changed to allow cyclists to turn left at a red light. It was certainly discussed in the press that they were considering it, no?

    My opinion, if it’s being invited, is that the camera man is the jobsworth on this occasion.

    Dickyboy
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    If it looks like a dick, sounds like a dick & acts like a dick, it’s a dick. He’s a dick.

    they are both dicks, I am a dick & so’s my wife, do we get a prize?

    fervouredimage
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    I think some of the uploaders other vids should be taken a look at. He basically uploads every cycling or driving misdemeanour he captures on his helmet cam and on all of them passes the usual whiny voiced ‘slow down mate’ ‘very careless riding mate’ ‘patience mate’ ‘stupid manoeuvre mate’. I’m surprised he hasn’t got multiple scars from people smacking him one.

    samuri
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    Well from my past experience of remonstrating drivers and cyclists, most of em are a lot less brave when they’re not behind a keyboard or windscreen.
    And I’m hardly an intimidating looking individual.

    fervouredimage
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    Well from my past experience of remonstrating drivers and cyclists, most of em are a lot less brave when they’re not behind a keyboard or windscreen.

    Aye, and mores the pity as far as he’s concerned.

    p8ddy
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    TBH – I find the camera man a sanctimonious ass. 2 cyclists, both gits in their own right.

    He’s entitled to his opinion, but he’s not entitled to insult people. It’s also not his job to administer the law or indeed lend approval to other peoples actions. In summary he’s an ass. That the light jumper is a moron is something that’s up for discussion, but that doesn’t exonerate the web2.0 publicity junkie that’s filming people and putting them on youtube.

    The bottom line is that neither of these two people is representative of “cyclists”. We are not a race or a homogenous glob any more that people who wear trousers or socks are. And anyone that bases their opinions of “cyclists” on the actions of one or two people (whatever that term represents) is a bigot, not too seperate to people like Tommy Robinson and his ilk.

    Finally, if the camera man tried the same stunt in Glasgow, I suspect he’d be a regular at A&E.

    yunki
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    I dunno..

    I’m not condemning the actions of either rider..

    He’s entitled to his opinion, but he’s not entitled to insult people. It’s also not his job to administer the law or indeed lend approval to other peoples actions.

    exactly like you’re doing now then..?

    maybe he IS entitled, why wouldn’t he be..?
    maybe that’s what’s wrong with society..?

    Junkyard
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    It’s also not his job to administer the law or indeed lend approval to other peoples actions

    yes that was my defence when I stood there watching them rob your bike.

    he’s an ass. That the light jumper is a moron is something that’s up for discussion,

    I think its your basis for this judgement that is up for debate

    Law breaking debatable but saying you act like an idiot when you break the law = ass, I disagree

    p8ddy
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    Yunki…

    exactly like you’re doing now then..?

    Exactly like I’m doing, by not doing it? 😀 I’m expressing an opinion on a message board, I’m not confronting someone and calling them an idiot. As I said, he’s entitled to his opinion, but how exactly is acting in an insulting and confrontational manner going to help anything more than getting him the flat nose he’s always hankered after?

    maybe he IS entitled, why wouldn’t he be..?
    maybe that’s what’s wrong with society..?

    What, there aren’t enough confrontational sanctimonious asses? Hmmm.. I don’t think that’s what’s wrong with society.

    It’s none of the cameraman’s business to pass judgement – the cyclist jumping the light doesn’t affect him in any way. It has no purpose to insult the guy other than by giving him a ill gotten sense of superiority.

    Who does it help? What good does it do? what positive purpose is there to calling the guy an idiot? That’s right, none. Zilch. He’s an ass.

    p8ddy
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    Junkyard…

    yes that was my defence when I stood there watching them rob your bike.

    Because clearly the two are the same. It’s a straw man. And an astonishingly crap one.

    One is a protective act, the other has no purpose.

    Now, if he’d ridden up to the cyclist and said “Someone was knocked down there last week, you might want to think before jumping red lights” I’d have a lot more sympathy. But he didn’t. “Idiot” was the cry, and one designed more to give his youtube channel more emotive conflict porn, than to help road users or anyone else.

    I think its your basis for this judgement that is up for debate

    Law breaking debatable but saying you act like an idiot when you break the law = ass, I disagree

    So do I. That’s not what I said. Again, it’s another poor rhetorical fallacy. That red light jumper, jumping the light *may* or *may not* make him an idiot. That’s up for debate. Not the notion that breaking the law makes everyone an ass. Or an idiot.

    dirk_pumpa
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    Here here.

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