Finally saved the cash for a new frame. Been settled on a Soul for ages, then Whyte and Pace come along with their 853 offerings (not ridden these last 2 or even know what the geometry is) but should I hold off the soul and wait to check out the new newbies?

Whyte 853?

If it was me, I'd go for the soul. Two lads I ride with love theirs and IMO if you have had your heart set on one for ages and then go for something else, you'll always wonder "what if?". I backed out of buying an 06 Enduro at the last minute, thinking it was too much bike for me at the time and I bought a stumpy as it was a bit more "xc". After 2 years of "what if's" I jumped to an SL and while I love I stil wish I'd owned an 06.

Just my thoughts, for what it's worth 😀

Bregante – good point.

avdave2 – sorry the whyte is 631 I reckon, but thats all I know.