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  • Premier Icon aracer
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    Doesn’t seem to for me, Graham – presumably you registered which I couldn’t be bothered with. Google is my friend though:
    http://btawa.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/The-Potential-for-Cycle-Helmets-to-Prevent-Injury-Review-.-D.Hynd-UK-2009.pdf

    Premier Icon GrahamS
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    Yeah thought that link might sneak you round the registration bit 😀

    Just looking at this table Klunk and the first thing I’m struck by is that it shows 33% of those fatalities wearing helmets also died from head injury as the main cause (though the sample size is 12 so not exactly brilliant).

    Premier Icon molgrips
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    and the helmet crack didn’t save me from anything.

    Are you suggesting that a helmet that breaks doesn’t do its job?

    Cos if so, you’re wrong.

    Riding along a flat road to reach a bridleway and my mate cut across in front of me taking my front wheel away, I landed head first onto the road.

    Bit shaken I rode on but after 2 hours I passed out and slid under a cafe table.

    Woke up in hospital and the A&E consultant said, “Good job you were wearing a helmet otherwise you’d be clogging up an ITU bed.”

    All the evidence I need.

    Premier Icon GrahamS
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    the A&E consultant said

    Last time I checked doctors are not given any training in forensic crash investigation.

    My missus, a doctor, would probably have said the same thing and she doesn’t understand why you don’t fly backwards when you jump in a moving train 😀

    @GrahamS – I’d rather take his advice than that of a bunch of IT managers!! 😉

    Premier Icon GrahamS
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    Fair enough – like I said I’m not here advising people not to wear a helmet.

    (Software Engineer by the way, but close)

    Premier Icon aracer
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    Good job you were wearing a helmet otherwise you’d be clogging up an ITU bed

    Just like I did when I hit the road with my head. Oh, hang on…

    Actually from your symptoms it sounds like you had a rotational injury 😈

    Euro
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    Case Study
    Subject: Euro

    Total number of hours riding a bike: 20000+
    Percentage of time spent riding a bike without helmet: 90%
    Number of crashes: No idea – easily more than anyone on this forum.
    Number of times i’ve hit my head by falling off a bike: 2
    Number of times i’ve hit my head and the helmet actually protected me: 1

    There you have it fact fans. 50/50 chance of a helmet offering some protection if you hit your head in a bicycle crash. 😀

    My missus, a doctor, would probably have said the same thing and she doesn’t understand why you don’t fly backwards when you jump in a moving train

    Deepends which way you are facing.

    Premier Icon ransos
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    Deepends which way you are facing.

    Actually, if the train is accelerating, you would move backwards slightly, wouldn’t you?

    sputnik
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    Sometimes a hat is not enough…

    Premier Icon gofasterstripes
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    Those pics are the best thing in this thread by a long way.

    Premier Icon molgrips
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    That’s a lovely pic. I’m guessing she rides pretty hard looking at how she’s snapped her frame clean in two just behind the headtube. Even more hardcore, it’s a fixie. That takes some doing.

    Premier Icon GrahamS
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    She’ll need that (massive) helmet though – she only has one brake on those tiny handlebars and it’s not connected to anything. 😕

    Premier Icon molgrips
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    It was connected, she broke the cable in the crash doing extreme downhill on her rigid fixie. She’s that hardcore.

    Premier Icon GrahamS
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    That explains the bruises under her eyes.

    Nasty wounds/bruises on her face. Imagine what she would have looked like without a hat?

    [sorry Graham…x-post!]

    p.s. I was smiling about this thread during a ride last night. The one thing that no-one has mentioned so far (I believe) is branches. Took a couple of solid branch hits on the helmet last night and was relieved that this was one of the 9/10 rides not the 1/10 version!! Didnt help with the shredded shin though!!

    Junkyard
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    al has made her a unicycle and she is perfectly wise to wear a massive helmet before testing his prototype

    Premier Icon gofasterstripes
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    teamhurtmore – That’s true – I got a low branch on a night ride. Felt like a baseball bat to the head, and was with my massive helmet [oooh eeer].

    Branches and hidden brambles in bracken are my current bugbears.

    Everything seems really overgrown (well my cheeky trails anyway) at the moment. I had a couple of “moments” in 7′ high inpenetrable bracken and thorns on “usual” trails last night. Disappeared completely and the subsequent camouflage made me look like i should be on the archery thread!!

    Premier Icon GrahamS
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    The thing I most commonly bang my helmet on (ooer!) is the door frame of the shed 😳

    sbob
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    GrahamS – Member

    The thing I most commonly bang my helmet on (ooer!) is the door frame of the shed

    I have quite a good record of accidently headbutting the missus. 😳

    BruceWee
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    Not wearing a polystyrene hat saved my life!

    While riding home from the pub without my polystyrene hat on my head(the eagle eyed among you will have probably spotted the root cause of the problem from the last sentence) I attempted to slide the round a loose gravel corner. The wheels dug in, I high sided, and found myself flying head first parallel to the ground.

    When I hit the ground the first point of contact was my shoulder. As soon as it hit the ground I started rolling. The end result was that I had a very sore shoulder, quite a bit of grazing on the side of my head, and a severe lecture from the missus about drinking to much.

    Had I been wearing my polystyrene hat the first point of impact wouldn’t have been my shoulder it would have been my head. I can’t tell you how much energy my shoulder absorbed in the impact but I can guarantee you it was more than the 0.2 inches of compression in the helmet would have.

    Had I been wearing the lid I’m sure I’d be sitting here saying that the helmet left me ‘only’ concussed and not dead.

    I still always wear my helmet mountain biking.

    Premier Icon nedrapier
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    Funny thing with the branches, I think the only times I’ve clocked my head on low branches has been while wearing a helmet.

    This is pure personal observation, no axe to grind, no risk compensation theories or anything! Promise!

    I’m guessing it’s because your upwards peripheral vision is compromised, especially if you’re sporting a peak.

    BruceWee
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    That’s why I’ve ripped the peaks off all my helmets.

    Except the full face helmets obviously. Who ever heard of a full face helmet without a peak. Farcical notion.

    The Future, would you ?

    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7Oud3iGXWY#at=46[/video]

    Premier Icon nedrapier
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    Can’t see youtube at work. If it’s the inflatable collarbaghelmet, no.

    I saw a lady this morning with her (child’s?) helmet so far back on her head, she was into polystyrene fascinator territory.

    mjsmke
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    Had I been wearing my polystyrene hat the first point of impact wouldn’t have been my shoulder it would have been my head. I can’t tell you how much energy my shoulder absorbed in the impact but I can guarantee you it was more than the 0.2 inches of compression in the helmet would have.

    How do you work that one out? Your shoulder took most the impact then you grazed your head. Ok. The extra thickness of a helmet will cause your head to hit the ground sooner. Agreed. But your shoulder is still taking a large amount of the impact. The impact on the helmet would be minimal if your head only had light grazes after the fall. By the way you describe the crash if you had been wearing a helmet and it had hit the ground first your shoulder will still be taking most the impact.

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