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  • Heating oil – how much!
  • intheborders
    Free Member

    We get through about 3,000 litres of heating/cooking oil per year, with a 1,200 litre tank so buy 1,000 litres whenever the gauge drops to 1.

    1,000l inc VAT:
    Nov 2020 £312
    Mar 2021 £420
    Jul 2021 £467
    Nov 2021 £595

    Today £1,290…, and only 1 supplier (of the 2 that deliver here) will quote a price. Scottish Borders.

    Anyone else bought/ordered this week?

    Kryton57
    Full Member

    See also fences, petrol, ‘lectric, gas and Haribo.

    monkeyboyjc
    Full Member

    It’s currently up to 4x what it was this time last year in my area…. Which matches your figures above. (I’m Cotswolds).

    tomhoward
    Full Member

    Expect that to double again by this time next year…

    Flaperon
    Full Member

    Yep, I’m seriously considering pulling out of a house purchase because it’s got oil-fired heating and hot water.

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    dickyhepburn
    Free Member

    Same here in S Cotswolds, luckily we got lots thru boiler juice not long ago 👍 just bought diesel at 197.9 though 😟 (thank god it’s work truck)

    gobuchul
    Free Member

    Paid 58p a litre in January.

    Got quoted £1.44 a litre yesterday.

    I turned the heating off.

    Straightliner
    Full Member

    My dad has just had the same – very similar prices to the OP. I can only hope that this massive spike is more about uncertainty rather than and true cost (albeit I would expect it to go up like everything else).

    poly
    Free Member

    OP – here’s the trend – you are about a month late in ordering it (I know that doesn’t help when you are buying to fill a tank):

    https://www.boilerjuice.com/heating-oil-prices/

    of course its roughly following crude prices; perhaps the only thing you could do to mitigate it (other than reduce use) is get a second tank so you can try to time your purchases when its cheaper rather than feeling compelled to buy as the tank is low.

    Yep, I’m seriously considering pulling out of a house purchase because it’s got oil-fired heating and hot water.

    if you don’t buy that house what will you buy instead? presumably (unless you can find and afford some swanky new passive house) it will still need heating etc? Wholesale electric and Gas prices have risen by similar %ages.

    longdog
    Free Member

    We’ve got half a 1300l tank left, was thinking to top it up it up before things get even worse, but I think a smaller delivery might be an even higher unit cost.

    Edit: the monitor shows 5 bars of 10 remaining, so maybe 600l+ to top up, but not sure on its accuracy

    Flaperon
    Full Member

    if you don’t buy that house what will you buy instead? presumably (unless you can find and afford some swanky new passive house) it will still need heating etc?

    Staying where I am would be the plan.

    trail_rat
    Free Member

    Weber got half a 1300l tank left, was thinking to top it up it up before things get even worse, but I think a smaller delivery might be an even higher unit cost.

    i wouldnt be rushing to keep my tank topped up.

    Right now is the worst combo of times to do it kneejerk if not needed. Always increased demand and cost this time of year. + the reaction to the taps being turned down.

    I topped mine up start of feb – had been swithering on holding off but we dropped to 1about then so pulled trigger – that was 800 quid to fill 1400l. so stands to reason at current rate that would be 1600 quid.

    Paid 58p a litre in January.

    Got quoted £1.44 a litre yesterday.

    I turned the heating off.

    how small is your tank that you need more 2 months later….

    trail_rat
    Free Member

    tomhoward
    Full Member
    Expect that to double again by this time next year…

    source ?

    longdog
    Free Member

    Yeh, I guess as we’ll be using heating less, the half a tank/600l left should last us a handful of months yet.

    Only have it on for water and hour morning and tea time. On for heating 6.30-9am, 4.30-8.30pm. We’ve cut out an hour at lunch.

    IHN
    Full Member

    Got 700l to top up our 1000l tank in Jan, 62ppl from Homefuels Direct. They’re now quoting 104ppl. Yoiks. We should just have enough to get through to April, when the heating will (mostly) go off and the solar will (mostly) take care of the hot water

    We’ve already cut our monthly spends budget by £100 a month to try and offset the fuel we’ll need next winter.

    mert
    Free Member

    On current exchange rates, i’m already paying over 2 quid a litre of diesel.

    Just paid for some bottled gas and it’s gone up 20% since before xmas as well!

    IHN
    Full Member

    Just paid for some bottled gas and it’s gone up 20% since before Xmas as well!

    Yeah, we’ll need to get some 47kg bottles at some point, they’ve been £59 each since November (they were a bit cheaper before then, can’t remember exactly how much)

    footflaps
    Full Member

    Expect that to double again by this time next year…

    I’d expect it to fall. We’re at maximum uncertainty right now so prices have maximum risk priced in. By next year, we’ll have reached steady state on post Covid / Ukraine and prices should drop to reflect the lower risk.

    thestabiliser
    Free Member

    If I made a press how much oil could I squeeze out of two children? Hypothetically.

    flicker
    Free Member

    I’d expect it to fall. We’re at maximum uncertainty right now so prices have maximum risk priced in. By next year, we’ll have reached steady state on post Covid / Ukraine and prices should drop to reflect the lower risk.

    Unless Russia cuts the gas off then prices are only going one way.

    Daffy
    Full Member

    178ppl in SN14. I paid 62ppl 3weeks ago. This was the most I’ve ever paid in 8 year on oil heating

    intheborders
    Free Member

    of course its roughly following crude prices; perhaps the only thing you could do to mitigate it (other than reduce use) is get a second tank so you can try to time your purchases when its cheaper rather than feeling compelled to buy as the tank is low.

    How much do you think it costs to install another tank, and connect it up plus need the space and the associated groundwork and ‘mounts’?

    Alphabet
    Full Member

    I’ve got about half a 1300l tank left. I’ll wait until the summer to refill. Good idea up there about a 2nd tank. Or perhaps swapping it for a bigger tank to buy more oil when it’s lower in price. We could probaby manage a year on one 2500l tank and buying in a bit more bulk may make it a bit cheaper too.

    FunkyDunc
    Free Member

    plus need the space and the associated groundwork and ‘mounts’?

    Have you seen the latest building regs! You need masses of space around and oil tank these days.

    The price is going to keep going up for now with that war thing going on.

    Is the price rise any more though than electric or gas will be ? Its certainly cheaper than swapping to an alternative.

    We are just about to replace our 20 year old oil boiler (as starting to break). Hopefully we will get a small increase in efficiency

    Its not the good old days of lockdown where we filled up for 26p per litre

    IHN
    Full Member

    How much do you think it costs to install another tank, and connect it up plus need the space and the associated groundwork and ‘mounts’?

    Exactly. I’m going to say north of three grand, and even at these prices that’ll take a while to claw back.

    grizedaleforest
    Full Member

    Had a new bunded tank installed in October – easy access and connections – cost was £2,500. This was a 1200l tank replacing the old single skin 2,500l tank. Not the best timed decision with hindsight!

    lesgrandepotato
    Full Member

    Yep, I’m seriously considering pulling out of a house purchase because it’s got oil-fired heating and hot water.

    Seems a bit hasty. I think oil is generally cheaper in my experience. We use about 1500l per annum. That’s usually about £750 or so per annum. What’s your gas bill? Is it more than 75 per month?

    Heating oil has cost me between 19p and 75p over the last 4 years and not just in a climb upwards

    blitz
    Full Member

    We were on 2 bars of a 1200L tank 2 weeks ago and got 1000L for £750 ish from Johnson oils. This is in fife on a 10 working day turnaround and has just been delivered today. However, very luckily, this was ordered literally just before the war started.

    dannybgoode
    Full Member

    That’s usually about £750 or so per annum. What’s your gas bill? Is it more than 75 per month?

    4 bed house, gas fired central heating/combi boiler and an old inefficient gas fired Aga and our bill is £360 per year so yes, much much cheaper. Even on the incoming rates it’ll be well under £450.

    I would not be buying a house with oil fired heating at the moment…

    SSS
    Free Member

    Bought 500l on monday – £522. If i wanted 500l today – £659.

    8 weeks ago – 500l was £291

    This will last me to summer and beyond now (the 500l will have topped up the tank – 1200l tank)

    Im on a fixed electric tariff until July. Might be more cost effective to use electric heating!

    Ewan
    Free Member

    Just to make people feel better, our new house seems to be the least efficient thing ever. Looking at 3200L/year, which at current prices is about 550/month.

    That’s with the thermostat at 17 degrees for 6 hours a day before someone tells me to turn it down (I have anyway. A balmy 13 degrees after 630 and 16 from 730).

    I filled up in Feb at 60p/L but I suspect prices will still be crazy when the next time comes around.

    mert
    Free Member

    If I made a press how much oil could I squeeze out of two children? Hypothetically.

    Depends how greasy they are i guess…

    mrmonkfinger
    Free Member

    Anthracite hasn’t changed – might buy another ton in case the suppliers decide to bump the cost a bit.

    And I thought having a coal fired boiler was a complete hassle and we should switch to oil…

    trail_rat
    Free Member

    4 bed house, gas fired central heating/combi boiler and an old inefficient gas fired Aga and our bill is £360 per year so yes, much much cheaper. Even on the incoming rates it’ll be well under £450.

    I would not be buying a house with oil fired heating at the moment…

    Surely you mean not buying an inefficient house ….. Because either your house is insulated to the hilt or you don’t have the heating on. My old 1 bed flat cost that to Heat on gas 10 years ago……

    matthewlhome
    Free Member

    Oil prices are crazy, somehow hasn’t hit the media though- perhaps because none of the papers are based in rural locations without gas.

    It’s bad enough ‘normal’ fuel prices are going up, but how are people struggling going to be able to pay 100% more on heating oil? It’s much more painful as generally needs to be paid for all at once.

    Does seem that the prices have ramped up more steeply than the crude oil though. If petrol diesel had done at the same rate it would be over £2.50 a litre (obvs taxes are different).

    I think this will hit struggling families harder than the gas – as those locations on oil are also likely to be rural with greater reliance on cars too.

    trail_rat
    Free Member

    It’s much more painful as generally needs to be paid for all at once.

    No it doesn’t. Only if you choose to do it that way. It does how ever have to be paid for upfront.

    convert
    Full Member

    For the past few years oil users have been very smug when thinking of the fait of us LPG users. I have had my head in the sand (and my hand in the woodshed- a lot) but I’m assuming if it’s bad for you lot, LPG prices are going to make me faint.

    intheborders
    Free Member

    No it doesn’t. Only if you choose to do it that way. It does how ever have to be paid for upfront.

    Same thing – go and see how expensive oil is to buy when you only want 100l delivered.

    longdog
    Free Member

    It’s much more painful as generally needs to be paid for all at once.

    No it doesn’t. Only if you choose to do it that way. It does how ever have to be paid for upfront.

    Yeh we looked at paying X amount monthly to a company towards future refils, but decided not to as we have a choice of 3 suppliers where we are, better to bank the money and then hopefully choose the best priced supplier when it’s needed. But still need the cash one way or another, not like DD for gas and elec for supplies used.

    trail_rat
    Free Member

    Same thing – go and see how expensive oil is to buy when you only want 100l delivered.

    Not sure you understand the concept.

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