Have we not done this? Cyclist v Police

Viewing 40 posts - 41 through 80 (of 173 total)
  • Have we not done this? Cyclist v Police
  • mega
    Member

    pig in a range rover = self important little ****

    Premier Icon GrahamS
    Subscriber

    if cyclist was turning right ahead then early arm signal would have been in order no

    In a right hand only lane?

    undertake would then be perfectly legit anyway.

    Through a bus lane?

    Why does the cop re-enter the right hand lane at all after his undertake, when he is apparently going straight on?

    eyerideit
    Member

    easygirl – Member
    Cyclist-asswipe
    Cycling in middle of road
    Copper no where near him

    Closing ranks eh?

    “It’s not our fault – we can’t do anything wrong.”

    Junkyard
    Member

    How do you know?

    well I can see the lights changing at 30 secs and then the video mysteriously stops and then he has caught them .
    You are right though I dont know but I suspect but it is not quite Kasae levels is it πŸ˜‰

    nickjb
    Member

    undertake would then be perfectly legit anyway.

    [i]Through a bus lane?[/i]

    … and crossing a solid white line

    How do you know he didn’t signal? And even if he didn’t, why not just pass safely and stay in the bus lane?

    I think he was escorting the range rover ahead, and got frustrated he might not keep up. He’s clearly not very good at his job though, it can’t be very professional to get that irritated at a cyclist, unnecessarily risk getting in an accident (by deliberately cutting in too close), then winding down the window and getting in an argument!? I think i’d ask for a different escort next time.

    Premier Icon Dickyboy
    Subscriber

    Graham S, not a dedicated right turn lane at that point, the lane markings are a bit ambiguous with a straight arrow just before a right arrow, just saying if someone had been up my arse at that point I would have been indicating right to let them know what I was planning.

    All in all its that there London & I wouldn’t be expecting the highway code to be followed to the letter even by a policeman

    Why does the cop re-enter the right hand lane at all after his undertake, when he is apparently going straight on?

    Punishment pull-out, as mentioned earlier. Although the copper has to re-enter the RH lane because he shouldn’t be in the bus lane in the first place.

    But given that the cyclist didn’t end up turning right, but went straight on to chase down the cop car in his quest for justice, perhaps we can see why the copper is asking what the rider was doing in that lane to start with.

    Changing your route to chase a bad driver doesn’t put you in a great light, so neither of them ends up looking good.

    wrecker
    Member

    Closing ranks eh?

    Who’d have though it eh?

    But we all know the end result, the copper will get away with being a ****.
    If any of us did this to, say a motorbike cop, you’d be nicked.

    butcher
    Member

    I didn’t think the ‘copper’ was that close and I think the cyclist was over the top…

    I think we can all agree that he was too close. What would happen if the cyclist swerved left for a pothole, got caught by a gust of wind, tyre blew out, or simply just meandered over a little, etc? The copper looked, to me at least, to be close enough to have caused a collision in one of the above scenarios. And these guys are our lead example of the Law. It doesn’t give a very good message to the public, does it? If that’s how the Law drives, then it must be OK with the Law.

    The cyclist on the other hand rides flawlessly throughout. How anyone can say otherwise is beyond me. There’s nothing more simple than riding in a straight line from A to B, even if A and B are in the right hand lane.

    mikeconnor
    Member

    Both were acting like plums

    that may well be the case. however, one is at least expected to act professionally and not be a plum, and is driving a large vehicle which is capable of inflicting a lot of damage.

    butcher
    Member

    just saying if someone had been up my arse at that point I would have been indicating right to let them know what I was planning.

    Your position in the road would indicate your intent.

    But if your intention wasn’t clear, then it would be even more dangerous to undertake, knowing that the cyclist could move back over to the left at anytime (which would be reasonable to assume, given that he only pulled out initially to overtake stationary traffic.)

    Premier Icon Nick
    Subscriber

    What a non-event that was, did the copper meet our (cyclists) expectations? No not really. Big deal.

    But we all know the end result, the copper will get away with being a ****.
    If any of us did this to, say a motorbike cop, you’d be nicked.

    It’s a bit of a pisser when you realise that life isn’t fair isn’t it πŸ™‚

    Premier Icon GrahamS
    Subscriber

    Punishment pull-out, as mentioned earlier. Although the copper has to re-enter the RH lane because he shouldn’t be in the bus lane in the first place.

    Exactly.

    If he was happy to use the bus lane to undertake cos he was going straight on then he should have damn well stayed in it once he passed, not taken a blatant “this’ll learn ‘im” swipe at the cyclist.

    If he wasn’t happy to use the bus lane he should have stayed behind the cyclist for the extra 5 seconds required till the bus lane ended and the straight-on lane appeared.

    Premier Icon althepal
    Subscriber

    Anyone think he might have been escorting the other RR that passed the cyclist shortly before the cop car? He sped off fairly sharpest once the lights changed.. Poss to catch up again??
    It was a shit manoeuvre though- even if on escort duty he didn’t wait till he was well past him to pull in.
    Should get knuckles wrapped for it.

    deluded
    Member

    Neither party showed themselves to be a good example of proper roadship. I suspect we’ve all let ourselves down in similar ways whilst sharing the highway.

    Premier Icon GrahamS
    Subscriber

    Neither party showed themselves to be a good example of proper roadship.

    Hmm.. personally I don’t think the cyclist did anything particularly wrong.
    (other than giving chase rather than letting it go)

    Premier Icon Speshpaul
    Subscriber

    Too close? not for a right hand over take, but for a undertake? Yes, at any point the cyclist could have swung left. According to the coppers stance he should of. So why would you undertake?

    The copper knows that if he is not technically committing an offence then he is showing stiff in the wrong in terms of good practice.
    (His “have you got a problem” on the attack is a bit of a give away.)

    turn it another way, if the bike had swung left and been taken out by the undertaking copper………….

    Premier Icon Speshpaul
    Subscriber

    “Anyone think he might have been escorting the other RR that passed the cyclist shortly before the cop car?”

    No. if he was then after stopping for a chat with a cyclist he’ll be back on the beat. that would be a escort Fail.

    Junkyard
    Member

    other than giving chase after RLJing rather than letting it go

    FTFY He is not the only one who wont let it go πŸ˜‰

    I suspect we’ve all let ourselves down in similar ways whilst sharing the highway.

    True but there have to be higher standards set for plod

    brakes
    Member

    six of one and half a dozen of the other really.
    copper is clearly following the Range Rover ahead and doesn’t want to lose him – cyclist is using more lane than is necessary – if you’re going to pull out that early, get over a bit more.

    schoolboy error by the cyclist is leaving an exit for the vehicle. if I ever reprimand a driver I park infront of his bonnet so he can’t get away without running me down (bit risky I know) and shout and gesture incoherently.

    eyerideit
    Member

    Looking at it again Al’s right, it does look like he was an escort to the grey RR.

    He wasn’t wearing ID numbers on his vest either combined dark blue uniform, the shades and sh*tty attitude suggests he more than a run of the mill bobby.

    Anyone think he might have been escorting the other RR

    Yep, said the same thing up there /\ ! Car has previously been in other escorts…

    BU60BZL Range Rover of the Special Escort Group

    deluded
    Member

    True but there have to be higher standards set for plod

    True JY – personally I set low standards and on occasion achieve them. πŸ˜€

    It does look like he was in tandem with what looks like an unliveried vehicle of the same colour/type/fleet.

    mega
    Member

    more than a run of the mill bobby

    he certainly was

    Premier Icon GrahamS
    Subscriber

    cyclist is using more lane than is necessary – if you’re going to pull out that early, get over a bit more.

    It looked to me like he originally pulled out due to stuff in left lane (bus, cones, van). By the time it was clear it wasn’t worth pulling back in again as he’d be back out in a matter of seconds to turn right ahead.

    Look at the timeline, the cop undertakes at 0:28 and the bus lane ends at 0:34. He could have just waited six seconds.

    IanMunro
    Member

    This is the sort of thing that happens when you allow the police to wear sunglasses.

    stgeorge
    Member

    Should have called the copper a pleb……

    Junkyard
    Member

    True JY – personally I set low standards and on occasion achieve them

    πŸ˜†

    Inserts joke about public servants

    He could have just waited six seconds.

    He would then have had to RLJ – I will get it in every reply πŸ˜‰

    eyerideit
    Member

    stgeorge – Member
    Should have called the copper a pleb……

    πŸ˜€

    I don’t think the police did anything wrong with that driving, certainly don’t think he exposed the rider to any risk, he did not have to take avoiding action. If the cyclist gets upset about that then he has a long way to go if he intends to carry on riding in London

    Would the cyclist have started the argument without having a camera? i tend to agree with the suggestion that sometimes people court arguments and altercations.

    Policemen wasn’t that professional in his response thoough.

    I don’t think the police did anything wrong with that driving, certainly don’t think he exposed the rider to any risk, he did not have to take avoiding action.

    please don’t drive anywhere near me….

    Premier Icon GrahamS
    Subscriber

    I don’t think the police did anything wrong with that driving

    Undertaking, in a bus lane, with a solid white line, then swinging back across to the right, far too close to the cyclist, even though he is going straight on in the left lane?

    You can’t see anything wrong with any of that?

    Would the cyclist have started the argument without having a camera? i tend to agree with the suggestion that sometimes people court arguments and altercations.

    You’re right in that he wouldn’t have had any evidence of it without a camera, so he wouldn’t have been able to make a complaint so may not have given chase.

    He’d still have been cut up though so I don’t see how having a camera caused it.

    come on, get over it. The driving wasn’t great but he hardly threatened the guys life did he? The cyclist didn’t have to swerve, brake or take avoiding action.

    Agreed. It’s a lot of hot air. Maybe the RR was a little close, but I don’t think the cyclist was in danger. He would only be where he is if he was turning right – as he himself later implies – in which case I don’t have a problem with the RR in the bus lane. Assume the cyclist used a hand signal to indicate intentions? Copper not so professional in response but not the end of the world. I do agree that the editing is suspicious though – suggests the cyclist went through a red to catch up. Also as other noted, looks like a close support RR for the silver one – its his job to stay close to that car. Coppers flout the law all the time – that’s not news.

    TBH most of the videos I’ve seen on Youtube like this, the cyclist is over-reacting. I say most, not all.

    So it’s not bad driving, unless he hits him.
    Remember, this is someone who is supposed to enforce the law…..

    TBH most of the videos I’ve seen on Youtube like this, the cyclist is over-reacting. I say most, not all

    The obvious exception being the petrol anker that pulls out onto a mini roundabout nearly taking out the cyclist. Can’t link to it from work but it was genuinly shocking.

    butcher
    Member

    The driving wasn’t great but he hardly threatened the guys life did he?

    He did though. That is the point. There was very little margin for error there, and it was absolutely unnecesary. As already said, if it was essential he could have carried on in the bus lane (or switched on the blues and twos). But instead made the choice swerve towards a guy on a bike with a bit of polystyrene on his head, on an otherwise clear road.

Viewing 40 posts - 41 through 80 (of 173 total)

The topic ‘Have we not done this? Cyclist v Police’ is closed to new replies.