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  • Have we done Jimmy
  • looks like Jimmy has done more of us TBH

    Junkyard
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    There was also rumours and the dead cannot sue.
    I doubt the truth will be known now he cannot speak

    jp-t853
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    I’m glad I didn’t spend a shed load on some second hand bikes in a charity auction.

    lucien
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    Now then, now then, how’s about that then…..

    BBC News

    Not sure what to make of it all to be quite honest 😯

    hora
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    Why make it now? Why not when he was alive?

    Premier Icon martymac
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    im with hora, what good would come of ‘proving’ that a guy who is dead may have acted inappropriately?
    im not belittling any such crime, but why now?
    what are they hoping to acheive?

    atlaz
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    Because it would either have looked like journos bullying an old man or he’d have sued. Given there’s unlikely to be enough evidence for a conviction (unlike Jonothan King) it’d be the word of the women against him.

    crankboy
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    We have done Jimmy when he died. It was all sort of old news even then. Before he died a friend in the media suggested that there was a big sex story about him that was subject to an industry wide agreement that it would not come out till after his death . If what she said is true this is the tip of the iceberg or what she said was a Chinese whisper version of these stories.

    atlaz
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    The thing is if it’s true and people in the media have knowingly sat on it then they should be outed as much as Jim is being.

    neninja
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-19777542

    This story suggests the BBC also investigated the rumours and found no evidence to support them.

    hora
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    Or Police but for a production company who is in business to make programmes for a profit its a seller. Plus you don’t have to worry too much about the additional expense (i.e. eating into the profit) of defending any court action as all his money has now been distributed and the man is no more.

    jota180
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    Have a Google for the HIGNFY transcript

    I’ve done this to death and been shot down for making such suggestions when he was alive but certainly in Leeds it was almost a casual joke that he liked ‘young’ women; my mum remembers him taking girls from her school for rides in his car and my uncle remembers him parked outside the school at home time.

    It will all come out in the wash but as has been said that if people close to him were aware of it and did nothing then that’s a crime in itself

    Premier Icon leffeboy
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    I think that was actually a hoax wasn’t it (the transcript that is)

    hora
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    He cracked onto my Aunt when he was a radio DJ but she turned him down. She was probably in her 20’s then if not slightly older.

    boblo
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    hora – Member
    He cracked onto my Aunt when he was a radio DJ but she turned him down. She was probably in her 20’s then if not slightly older.

    So a ‘famous’ DJ made a pass at a women in her 20’s? And the story is?

    The story is most them were under 16, allegedly

    Premier Icon Rusty Spanner
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    Ben, so your mum and your uncle reported their suspicions to the police then?

    If not, then ‘that is a crime in itself’ according to your logic.

    Premier Icon binners
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    I saw the trailer last night, and I doubt I was on my own in thinking that a greater degree of proof should probably be required than Esther Rantzen deciding, then declaring forlornly, that he’s guilty.

    Or is that how the justice system is working nowadays? Esther – bless her, she does Childline and stuff – weighing things up, then giving the thumbs up, or down, like a Roman Emperor to indicate peoples fate. With an extremely concerned look on her face, of course 🙄

    atlaz
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    There was an article somewhere on the web yesterday that showed a picture of Esther in the 70s wearing a short skirt. I couldn’t quite work out what the point they were making with it juxtaposed next to a picture of her looking concerned now.

    Quite perplexing!

    Rusty, my Mum tells the story as ‘excited teenage girls’ getting to ride in a big car, my uncle who mixed with the ‘casino’ crowd in Leeds in the 70’s would say the stories were rife and more sinister.

    As for the police, no they did not as ultimately it’s idle gossip without proof.

    It would appear that now people have come forward with something more substantial.

    It would also appear Jimmy and Lance share a pedestal.

    Premier Icon geoffj
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    The story is most them were under 16, allegedly

    or dead, allegedly

    hora
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    So a ‘famous’ DJ made a pass at a women in her 20’s? And the story is?

    A poster makes a eye-witness comment, so I immediately add another actual event to balance.

    What are you struggling with here caller?

    It would also appear Jimmy and Lance share a pedestal.

    The internet, it seems has created a monster. People can throw accusations at another safely from behind a monitor. Are you drawing parallels between two men here and why is it relevant?

    boblo
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    BenHouldsworth – Member
    The story is most them were under 16, allegedly

    Oh sorry, I thought Hora said his aunt was “in her 20’s then if not slightly older”….

    My question, “what’s the story?” related directly to that point.

    I know there are other allegations being made now (ones that can’t be defended).

    <edit> @Hora. Context old boy, that’s what was missing. It wasn’t clear where you were coming from until your clarification immediately above.

    Premier Icon Rusty Spanner
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    Yep, idle, or malicious, gossip just about sums it up.

    what good would come of ‘proving’ that a guy who is dead may have acted inappropriately?

    Substantially increased viewing figures for ITV on Wednesday evening without any risk of litigation ?

    Hora, The LA comparison was that some people will not accept the mere possibility that these rumours are true and when people are put on pedestals it’s always quite big drop when they are knocked off them.

    Rusty, I think the issue is these stories have gone round for years, from various sources, all with the same insinuations.

    Without doubt he was a strange fruit whom it is easy to sling mud at, I’m not sure why so many people would be saying the same thing.

    Premier Icon Rusty Spanner
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    Who’s said that they would not accept that the rumours are true?
    No one on here.

    If there is any actual evidence that he commited a crime I’m sure we’ll find out about it.

    I’m just shocked that the alleged victims, and apparantly those mates of your uncle, did nothing whilst he was alive.

    I’m as equally shocked that nothing was done when he was alive if things are substantiated and you’re quite correct in flagging up the people who claim to have known around the time it was allegedly happening.

    hora
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    Hora, The LA comparison was that some people will not accept the mere possibility that these rumours are true and when people are put on pedestals it’s always quite big drop when they are knocked off them.

    Eh? Those are serious allegations to level at someone. No Policeman would drop a charge purely because an ex-disc jock or tv presenter was abit odd/presented childrens programmes.

    Look at Jonathan King – he was charged and convicted.

    Premier Icon DezB
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    @Hora. Context old boy, that’s what was missing. It wasn’t clear where you were coming from until your clarification immediately above.

    Was clear to me

    boblo
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    @dez. Congratulations 🙂

    Junkyard
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    The internet, it seems has created a monster. People can throw accusations at another safely from behind a monitor.

    The allegations about Jimmy and LA are made in the actual real world by people who were there, they are merely commented on the internet.

    There have been rumours about both for their entire career

    They are very serious allegations and there are apparently 10 women making them, what we don’t know is whether they approached the police at the time or prior to his death or whether they were approached by ITV, I think we should watch the programme and see what gets said, if things turn out to be true there’s no victory to be had for people saying I told you so, it’s a disturbing story either way

    boblo
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    I think you’re right Ben, cos telly programmes are rarely slanted or biased. Best way to judge that is, oh yes.

    nealglover
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    my uncle who mixed with the ‘casino’ crowd in Leeds in the 70’s would say the stories were rife and more sinister.

    I can’t imagine for a minute that those stories were embellished to make them sound more interesting, or just made up.

    I mean, when have a bunch of blokes out on the piss ever got anything wrong.

    BenHouldsworth – Member

    They are very serious allegations and there are apparently 10 women making them, what we don’t know is whether they approached the police at the time or prior to his death or whether they were approached by ITV, I think we should watch the programme and see what gets said, if things turn out to be true there’s no victory to be had for people saying I told you so, it’s a disturbing story either way

    This.

    Boblo, this is women going on TV and saying they are victims of sexual assault, not my uncle and his mates repeating stories they heard on a night out.

    Premier Icon DezB
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    @dez. Congratulations

    Thanks! I didn’t feel that I could comment on anything else in the thread as I know nothing about Jimmy Saville’s hobbies.

    boblo
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    Could save us a fortune, trial by TV. get rid of the Judicial system in one fell swoop…..

    @Ben The telly prog is made by a production company to sell to a network to errrr, make money. Not to find ‘the truth’ beyond reasonable doubt.

    I have no opinion on what Jimmy fiddlesticks Saville did or didn’t do. I just think the timing is a bit suspect and trial by TV is not necessarily the best option.

    hora
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    Whatever next, a man runs off with a schoolgirl and his wifes name and face are plastered all across the media.

    This morning in the Sun – ‘Schoolgirl mans wife leaves him’.

    you **** trailer trash newspaper. no ****. That poor poor woman.

    The media (and that includes the ulra-fair competition offering ITV) love to shit on easy targets.

    Premier Icon binners
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    You have been sexually assaulted, do you…

    a) Report it to the police, so they can begin a criminal investigation?
    b) Contact a TV producer, so they can make a program about it?

    There is a reason we spend quite a bit of taxpayers money on a proper criminal justice system. But then maybe we should just save a bit of cash and scrap the present system. Innstead we could have self-serving attention-whores Esther Rantzen getting her mug back on telly after failing in her narcissistic attempt to become an MP, and generate some prime time advertising revenues at the same time

    Will there be audience voting? like on X Factor? to ascertain (via a premium cost phone-line) whether he’s guilty or not?

    Binners, we don’t know what involvement the police have had; it may turn out they girls did go to the police and weren’t believed, this is the West Yorkshire Police Force in the 70’s

    hora
    Member

    Come on. 70’s Police were sometimes harsh, some were corrupt however today the same can happen. Doesn’t mean you can tar a whole decade of Policing as incompetent.

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