Hardtail build – Soul or Chameleon?

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  • Premier Icon mrblobby
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    Have you ridden both? I’d probably maybe possibly go Chamy.

    zelak999
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    I’m going to buy a new hardtail frame to build with all the spare bits I have accumulated over the years.
    Can’t decide between the Mk 3 Soul or a new style Chameleon with the ‘normal’ length TT.
    Any thoughts?

    ska-49
    Member

    I’d go Chameleon personally. Lighter and has the adjustable dropouts. I also love the tennis ball yellow.. The sizing suits me better too.

    zelak999
    Member

    I can’t work out if I like the tennis ball yellow or not.
    It’s frickin loud that’s for sure!

    MrGFisher
    Member

    Just posted in another Chameleon thread on here.. I have just built up the new version as i wanted a versatile, fun hard tail. What swung it for me was the changeable dropouts if you want to run SS and also you can get a 650b in the rear.

    I went for blue as i have a Vit P Mojo HD and the yellow was too similar to that and also the blue is really nice in the flesh.

    Premier Icon Northwind
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    Stiff or not stiff? Matter of taste this. If you don’t get on with the basic character then it’s not going to work out. I’d say Soul but then I really dislike stiff hardtails, lots of people would say the exact opposite.

    ska-49 – Member

    I’d go Chameleon personally. Lighter

    New Chameleon is claiming 4.7lbs for a medium, old eccentric one was 5lbs-ish. Mk3 Soul is claimed 4.4lbs for the medium. (it’s not a very fair comparison, the Chameleon needs to accomodate the bigger wheels and is warrantied for longer forks)

    Premier Icon binners
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    Everyone should own a chameleon at some point. They’re bloody brilliant!!!!

    elliott-20
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    ^ this

    😀

    matther01
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    In my experience alu means sore arse, steel equals comfort. My Soul has been brilliant and resale value will also be good…but she’s never being sold!

    Premier Icon matt_outandabout
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    In my experience (poorly built) alu means sore arse, (poorly built) steel equals comfort sore arse as well.

    FTFY
    I think it is far more about frame design, tyres and seatposts.

    zelak999
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    @MrGFisher what size frame is that?

    Premier Icon sprocker
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    First ride on my new bfe today felt really good bit nicer on the rear than the chameleon s I have had , soul is a bit softer again depends what you are after.

    Premier Icon mobes
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    Went from a chameleon to a soul last year. While I loved the chameleon for messing around on, the soul is a bit longer in the top tube and definitely more comfortable on longer rides

    MrGFisher
    Member

    Zelak, its a medium.

    Premier Icon richieokeefe1
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    soul all the way its alot more comfy !

    faceplanter
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    Everyone should own a chameleon at some point. They’re bloody brilliant!!!!

    So true,
    I don’t ride mine anymore but would never let it go. Kept the frame as a medal of four years of great countrywide mountain biking 😆
    Tim.

    mindmap3
    Member

    I’ve had three Chameleons and all have been a hoot. My only issue is the pigmy top tubes. The last one was a large and it fitted really well and was still ok for mucking about in the woods in (jumps, drops and short DH runs) but was still good for longer rides.

    The ride is quite harsh (more so than my Sub Zero that I had before), but not too bad. My BFe is quite harsh too. I was OK doing some big rides on the Chameleon though even with an I beam post and an I fly saddle.

    Not ridden a Soul, so can’t compare. Either way, both are nice bikes so you can’t go wrong.

    Premier Icon accu
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    Either way, both are nice bikes so you can’t go wrong.

    +1

    waller
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    I’ve got both and would choose the chameleon easily over the soul which I was a bit disappointed in to tell the truth.

    I don’t find the chameleon harsh at the rear however I find the soul dead and sluggish in feel. Just my own opinion though. Everyone is different and all that jazz.

    Owned both (multiple Chameleons). If I wanted another all day more XC-ey style bike I’d get a Soul. Took me a while to get used to it but it was a great bike. The Chameleon on the other hand is a case of jumping on and you’re instantly popping wheelies and looking for stuff to jump off. A very different beast (the older ones anyway, I don’t have any experience of the new Chameleon). I’d say the Chameleon is more of a BFe type bike.

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