- hardcore hardtails
- Mr AgreeableSubscriber
They are fun. You’ll be able to have a go at stuff that scares you, without worrying whether the bike can take it. Mine has clearance for huge DH tyres and the geometry is great for riding down or punting off stuff. They encourage you to learn new techniques and they can be pretty easy to ride uphill too.
On the other hand they can be harsh to ride for longer rides, you won’t win any races, and you might find one a bit cramped depending on how tall you are. Swings and roundabouts really.Posted 9 years agoalpinMember
i’ve a db alpine – hardcore HT lite, prehaps – and find it a good bike to burn about on.
it rides up well enough, with a short cockpit allowing you to get weight forward.
as above, i have big tyres to soak up some of the trail.
ride the fork on the way down. extended periods of flatish xc is a killer – a bit too cramped.Posted 9 years ago
It depends how hardcore, what they are made of and just how over built they are. Generally speaking though they are loads of fun. Ideal tool for short tight dh trails which aren’t overly eroded or rutted. They can be very very harsh and unforgiving though, which can be a problem as the slack geo will encourage you tackle everything and go flat out while your at it.
Tbh a DMR trailstar with 160mm forks is about as hardcore as you need an will still be versatile. Proper hardcore hardtails are actually very unpleasant to climb on as they tend to have geo similar to dh bikes.Posted 9 years agoSTATOMember
Ive just built one up and its actually quite good fun (serious full sus lover here). Gets your back a little on long climbs and bumpy tracks, but with wide bars, big forks and big tyres its more than capable when ragging it down some really rough stuff, the only limit is the rider (or ability to take the shakes anyway).Posted 9 years ago
My Hardtail is plenty rideable up hills, and super tough on the downs. A steepish head angle allows me to run 150mm forks, and not have it turn like a river barge.
As harsh as any Ali framed bike but not overly so…
Was a bargain at £170 for the frame, and i ride it almost as much as my SX-Trail. With the Alfine hub installed it makes a great winter/singletrack bike.
Posted 9 years agoscott_mcavennie2Member
Mine is a small-ish frame with a long-ish top tube and 5 inch suss. Great fun and I often do 30 odd mile xc rides on it. I’ll also be doing the 80 mile south west randonee on it later this year.
Climbs well, and descends like a monster. Good all rounder really.Posted 9 years agochvckMember
What do you mean by rather large? Only one way to find out though
That’s what worries me, I imagine that it’d be fine but I’m not sure what it’d take to break a 456! I’d guess it’s maybe 8 foot down by 8 foot out? Only issue is if I don’t properly clear it then it’s flat land and that probably will be very, very bad!Posted 9 years ago
That’s what worries me, I imagine that it’d be fine but I’m not sure what it’d take to break a 456! I’d guess it’s maybe 8 foot down by 8 foot out? Only issue is if I don’t properly clear it then it’s flat land and that probably will be very, very bad!
If you have a reasonably steep transition and you land it clean then no problem. However if the landing is on the flatside or you case, then I wouldn’t like to be in your shoes. I doubt whether the 456 is designed to take that kind of abuse, either on a regular basis or at all. It’d be interesting to hear what brant has to say on that one.Posted 9 years agoacjimMember
I’ve got a tiny (14″?) DJ (think it’s a brand-x frame) bike built up with 130mm bombers and 1×9 gears – with a 400mm seatpost I can climb with it but it’s only really any fun going down / off stuff. Fab handling for steep stuff though and jumps really nicely.
I’d like to swap the frame for something a little more like that MC Rumble (nice bike!)Posted 9 years ago
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