- Hanging out with a murderer
- Tom BMember
Weird one, there has been a high profile disappearance (that turned into a murder) of a local midwife in my hometown….I don’t live too far away, so lots of sharing missing persons info etc on Facebook….
Fast forward to today and I read an article where the guy whom has been charged with her murder has been beaten up in prison…..I went to sixth form with him, knew him through what is now my ex wife. He was in my extended group of friends, was always at the same club we used to sample our first proper ‘nights out’, think he was sort of in touch with my ex wife throughout our twenties.
Not even sure what this post is about tbh, it’s just a very surreal feeling. He was always a decent guy, had an okay job, was married, never in trouble at all with the police…..basically he was the same as me! Not quite sure what happens in your life that leads you from that to his current situation.Posted 1 year agomatt_outandaboutSubscriber
In Galloway in the 1990’s I often had a meal or a walk with a murderer, after his release from prison. He was a nice chap, who mad a huge mistake in his life, for which he was remorseful and paid a long sentence price for. Just one of the folk you meet in life.Posted 1 year agoscaledSubscriber
Similar experience here Matt, I met a couple of former life liaison officers in Leicestershire, they’d started a building company with a load of their old, errr, clients? Quite a few of them were living in their house as condition of their release and every one of them seemed perfectly normal.Posted 1 year agoavdave2Member
Shared a tent for a week with two people who went on to kill 3 people by smothering them in their beds while robbing their houses. One of them was a first class horrible piece of work even then aged around 13. The other one stupid enough to go along with him. I think our Scout group was blessed with an above average number of unpleasant psychopaths, I witnessed another all round nasty piece of work throwing a felling axe at someone who had said something he didn’t like.Posted 1 year agoTheDTsMember
Chap I’d known all the way through school went on to murder his father with an axe. The only person I have ever had a fight with. Troubled from the start, lost his mum when he was tiny, had everything he could have ever needed, but never got the help he needed.
The case with the OP, strange case, no plea required as no confirmed cause of death..Posted 1 year agotnrbillyMember
Live in a small town where there was a murder several years ago – pretty shocking and out of character for the place. I didn’t directly know the person convicted but remembered him from school (year or two below me) and regularly saw him around town. The wife also worked in an off licence at the time and said he came in every day for a single can of Special Brew, no more than that and was always polite and very pleasant.Posted 1 year agofunkmasterpSubscriber
I have two old friends of my brothers who were convicted of murder. One killed himself in prison and the other is now out and has rebuilt a life for himself. The circumstances in both cases were tragic (nothing like the case in the OP) and just extremely sad.
The guy who took his own life was basically pushed and bullied until he snapped at the people doing the bullying. Tragic loss of two lives being the result.
The other friends life pretty much turned to shit, he got in with a bad crowd and it got worse from there. Last time I saw him, which is a fair few years ago now, he pretty much told me not a day goes by that he isn’t full of remorse and sadness for what happened.Posted 1 year agouser-removedMember
Scouts again… I shared a lift every other week with the son of the guy who chopped up his opera singing wife in Mallorca and stuffed her limbs into bins. The dad was a proper odd-ball. He let his 10 year old son bring the massive Volvo out of the garage, down the lane, up two main roads and park it out front. He also told us amusing stories of torturing his classmates when he was a boy.
I see he’s out after serving four years… http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12124591.Scottish_wife_murderer_free_after_four_years_in_Spanish_jail/
My dad petitioned the government to allow the release of a Chinese murderer who then spent his time hanging around the house. Strung up his girlfriend with a piano wire. He enjoyed making jokes about the whole thing without ever admitting his guilt.Posted 1 year agonealgloverMember
My dad petitioned the government to allow the release of a Chinese murderer who then spent his time hanging around the house. Strung up his girlfriend with a piano wire. He enjoyed making jokes about the whole thing without ever admitting his guilt.
It seems like there should be more to that story than there is ?Posted 1 year agotomhowardSubscriber
I went to school with this delightful, upstanding citizen.
Tbh, he had ‘prison’ in his eyes, even at 13…Posted 1 year agouser-removedMember
“It seems like there should be more to that story than there is ?”
Not really. There was a miscarriage of justice insomuchas the guy had been locked up for 22 years which is a lot more than usual for a crime of passion. My dad worked for the BBC as a radio studio manager making programmes for ethnic minorities and this case caught his attention, so he “sponsored” the guy after campaigning for his release.
“Prisoner Tony” was a bit of a weird character – he’d gone in as a very young man and came out as an adult with an 18 year old man’s expectations and experience (of “normal” life). He was scary and vulnerable in equal measures.Posted 1 year agopolyMember
Fast forward to today and I read an article where the guy whom has been charged with her murder has been beaten up in prison…
Keep in in mind that although he has been charged he is on remand (so to answer another post is in a “normal” prison but on a wing only with other remand prisoners and gets slightly better privileges – but has still lost his liberty for now at least). As such he should still be presumed innocent until the crown prove otherwise. Plenty of people go on remand and are later acquitted, some because the crown failed to prove its case to the required standard, some because the person genuinely didn’t do it.Posted 1 year agoandytherocketeerSubscriber
kid in the year below me at school tried to take the life of a 13yo girl during afternoon break in the playground
he was always a nutcase that everyone was sure was destined for HMP Borstal (the local jail), but I think that stopped being a “borstal” around that time, so he ended up at some other “school for special educational needs”.
my great great great grandfather was acquitted of murder
his older brother wasn’t
their father supposedly confessed after the hanging, but I haven’t found actual evidence of that part of the story yetPosted 1 year agon0b0dy0ftheg0atMember
A lovely but troubled young lady I knew during my worst depression days at the turn of the century randomly bumped into me a few years later and we met at a pub with our partners, he seemed a bit odd as first impressions go, fast forward to 2011 and he savagely killed Anita with multiple stab wounds during a huge stand-off with police in the middle of the night at their flat on Paynes Road. 🙁Posted 1 year agotinybitsMember
I was in the same class as this delightful individual….
im now pleased I never got on with him and had the odd scrap (which in fairness didn’t go that well for me as he was a big lad for his age)Posted 1 year agotonMember
where to begin,
in my last year of school, 3 lads i grew up with went glue sniffing after a burglary spree. a argument ended with 2 of them murdering the other. beat him to death with baseball bats.
about 20 years ago, my cousin, who was a drug addict was sentenced to 18 years after stabbing his dealer to death. i have not seen him since his release.
and in the 60’s my mothers cousin strangled his wife and dumped her body in a toilet somewhere on the north yorkshire moors.
1 bad choice can ruin many lives.Posted 1 year agohedleyMember
If you want an interesting read with so many twists and turns…
My lecturer at Uni (Napier in Edinburgh) was Paul Agutter, an utterly brilliant man, captivating, funny, caring and the best lecturer. We spent a lot of time with him not just in his classes but socially and in evening drinks/Biochemistry workshops.
He went on to to try to kill his wife (in an open relationship, his mistress was a former student from one of his courses) by adding deadly nightshade to bottles of tonic water in Safeway which went on to poison 8 people and caused a lot of panic at the time in Edinburgh.
The story is quite bizarre, especially as he ended up in jail with the same man who had falsely confessed to poisoning the tonic water but had been removed from the investigation.
Upon his release, Paul Agutter went on to teach Ethics at Manchester.
I know this is a link to the Daily Record but their article is the most in-depth out of all of the papers at the time.Posted 1 year agowlMember
A senior psychiatric nurse I worked with once worked at Pentonville Prison for a while. He said the majority of murderers he came across were just surprisingly regular guys who’d made one huge and catastrophic mistake in the heat of the moment, despite otherwise unremarkable lives. Quite sad really.Posted 1 year agocchris2louMember
One of my former teacher tried to kill his wife and children by putting arsenic in pancakes. Luckily he did not put enough and they survived. After a few years in jail, his family pardonned himand carried on with family life.
He was in debt and ending it all was the only solution he could think of.Posted 1 year agoMTB-IdleMember
a lot of my extended family work or worked in Broadmoor (prison for the criminally insane that housed amongst others the yorkshire ripper).
My uncle Jim (RIP) was an ex-chippy turned warden and taught the prisoners woodwork. At family parties he never, ever, ever stood anywhere other than with his back to the wall.Posted 1 year agohaggis1978Member
Wow. Didn’t realise so many people had experiences like this. An old school friend of mine did time for murder. Had been ran over by a motorbike at age 12. In a coma for weeks. When he came round he wasn’t properly diagnosed and thought he only had mild brain damage, if there is such a thing. Years later after 17 years in prison and further scans and it turns out he can’t control his emotions and can’t switch off. Basically goes ballistic. We always though he was just mad as a box of frogs but not in a dangerous way. He left our hometown. Got in tow with some mad cow who convinced him her dad abused her. The dad attacked attacked him with a rolling pin. He retaliated at a later date. Man died. Trial was an absolute joke. Hospital lost his medical records telling of accident when he was a kid. What we know now is he should have been getting treatment from when he had his accident. He’s now living in sheltered housing after receiving treatment at a brain injury unit for 4-5 years. Has PTSD, is a paranoid schizophrenic and bi-polar as a result of his time inside on top of the brain injury. Tragic story on both sides. Still go to see him when I can. Went from being a cat D prisoner to cat A fairly quick. Other prisoners tormented him. He had to become a certain way in order to survive inside. Dont know why I’m blurting this all out on here but I guess not all people are equal. Some deserve what they get, some don’t.Posted 1 year agoFunkyDuncMember
Surgeon or divorce lawyer, I’ve heard both cost and arm and a leg?
Also gets involved with a lot of murderers too. Prison Officers don’t tell her what they have done, but they do kind of give the nod about which ones to keep at arms length. Googling after has brought up some ‘interesting’ characters.Posted 1 year ago
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