- Gravel: Mason Bokeh or Reilly Gradient
I have a very fortunate but equally frustrating decision to make. Mason Bokeh or Reilly Gradient.
Those are the 2 finalists and I don’t think I can budge from them. they fit on features, price, design, look and niche’ness.
I’m talking just frameset as this is going to be a build project.
Mixed riding not continent crushing. Evening and weekend gravel, bridleway, singletrack and the only road will be joining those bits together. 100mile bashers and some CX too.
Mud clearance is key too, round here the bridleways get proper churned up and sticky..
I love the design details and colour (orange) of the Bokeh, they really do market the frame well, and everything I read about this frame is very promising.
I have seen one up close and it looks great, really very posh..
Alu at this price does not bother me at all, as long as the ride feel and quality is there.
The Gradient is equally nice, and Ti is a draw for me no doubt. I love the fact that stone chips are non existent on brushed frames. I want to try the Ti thing at some point. I really will cry if (when) my £1250 painted frame gets dinged.
The geos are the same give or take, both 650b compatible, both offer the current ‘standards’ and both look great. Both review very well too.
It comes down to boutique Alu orangeness or shiny titanium ruggedness.
Views, opinions and suggestions welcome..Posted 3 months agodrlexMember
Don’t think you can go wrong with either of them. I have an Orange Bokeh and love it- I note that the Ti frameset at £3.5k is just a bit more than it cost me to fully build up the alu frame with Di2 Ultegra, dyno hub on handbuilts with supernova lighting, plus spare set of tyres, so I can live with the odd scratch.Posted 3 months agohardtailonlySubscriber
I wasn’t in quite your position in terms of cash-to-splash, but glad I scratched my Ti itch with my Pickenflick … Frame still looks fresh despite 14 months and 6000km later. You can scratch your orange itch with some blingy hubs, bottle cages, bar tape etc.
Plus get some skinwall tyres.
Rides really well too.Posted 3 months ago
I have previously looked at the fairlight.. indeed a fab looking frame..
It dropped off my shortlist due to me wanting something a touch lighter. Bokeh and Gradient are approx 1600gr for 50/52cm.
I’m a light guy so I always aim for light bikes.
Also the aesthetics of a chipped steel frame put me off. I had a steel 456 and where chain slap and stone chips started to go rusty, it looked pants. Avoidable to some extent but still an issue for me, especially on a £1100 frame.Posted 3 months agorOcKeTdOgSubscriber
Mixed riding not continent crushing. Evening and weekend gravel, bridleway, singletrack and the only road will be joining those bits together.
given that they are more road bike than singletrack weapon based on the above fact that you’ll be riding hardly any tarmac I’d choose….
…an mtbPosted 3 months agoibnchrisSubscriber
Another Gradient owner here. With two sets of wheels (some hope XC 27.5 and hope road wheels) I’m all set for pretty much anything the South of England can throw at me.
Have had it for 9 months and it’s been awesome. Mark is also a top guy – great customer service and he’ll help you spec out what you want/needPosted 3 months ago
Yes Mark has been very helpful so far. So has Alex from Mason.
I can’t get the time to visit unfortunately as I’m flat out with work and general life duties at the moment.
I’m trying to arrange a visit with a mate who owns both in his fleet, to get a closer look. I’ve ridden his Gradient down the road only.
Cheers for the insights guys.Posted 3 months agogiantlee75Member
I stupidly also bought a ti Fargo – then the wife got made redundant …soooo !
To be honest, I have ridden it a max of 10 miles, it’s such a waste – it’s a beautiful bike and rides like a dream – the frame is something I would happily hang on the wall, as well as being super versatile
LeePosted 3 months ago
So…. As expected.. I still cannot really choose between them.
Nobody on here has a bad word against either, only good things about both.
I’m slightly leaning over to the Reilly but only because of the most stupid of reasons.. I like brushed frames (my MTB is brushed Alu too). I guess that’s the problem with extremely close contenders, you really start to pick the tiniest of reasons to buy / or not buy which sounds so fickle.Posted 3 months ago
After much painful deliberation I ordered a Bokeh with a set of 650b rims. Monstercross here I come.Posted 2 months ago
And it should be with me by the end of the week, ready for building. I’m well excited.!
No other bike purchase choice has caused me this much headache, crazy 1st world problems eh!?!fourMember
Bokeh is nice, Riley I don’t know anything about…….However if I wanted an ‘adventure’ bike I’d 100% go Ti for the durability of finish and comfort.
I’d personally go with EnigmaPosted 2 months ago
Here we go, as soon as I ordered one, I hear the horror stories. 😉
I have already sourced some 3M clear protective tape for the prime stone chip areas so have that covered (literally)
And everything I read or people I speak with say the alu Bokeh is just as comfy as the Ti, especially as it will be on 2.0 rubber, so the need for some comfort from the frame is pretty much obsolete now with fat tyres at 30psi.
The lines are very blurred now between the properties of frames, now we have so many variables open to us to make them behave like we require. The characteristic trail softening of Ti can be offset with big rubber, add that wider tyres are now proven to be just as good in most real world environments it’s a good thing.
If I was sticking with narrower 700c tyres at harder pressures then I would’ve considered the Ti more.
The Enigma is too £££ for me, although lovely I agree. The J Guillem Atalaya was up there too. Lush!Posted 2 months agoscudMember
I went over and over with exact same decision but settled on the Reilly, mostly because i wanted something for Torino-Nice last year and this year.
Both rode brilliantly, with little between them, but i figured as i was going to be doing week long tours with bike covered in bags, that the ti would be best as i could just polish the frame and not have to worry about the paint.Posted 2 months ago
Scud, very good point re the paint and it’s a big plus for the Ti frames.
3M tape is my solution for that, I applied some to my current carbon gravel and its still spotless. A bit of a faff to apply but does solve the problem to an extent.
I could not resist the deep glossy Flare Orange of the Bokeh, and the graphics, ohh and the smooth welds, and the internal cables, the headtube badge, ohh yeah and the all the good things said about them.
I’m sure the Gradient would have been equally as good. They really are very closely matched.Posted 2 months ago
Yes I was tempted with the Tempest too.. My current MTB is a Scandal and my gravel/road is a Bish Bash Bosh and I love both of them. Truly great frames.
I was after something a bit more special this time around so was wanting a niche/lower production/lesser known frameset..Posted 2 months ago
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