Gravel: Mason Bokeh or Reilly Gradient

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  • Gravel: Mason Bokeh or Reilly Gradient
  • medlow
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    I have a very fortunate but equally frustrating decision to make. Mason Bokeh or Reilly Gradient.
    Those are the 2 finalists and I don’t think I can budge from them. they fit on features, price, design, look and niche’ness.

    I’m talking just frameset as this is going to be a build project.
    Mixed riding not continent crushing. Evening and weekend gravel, bridleway, singletrack and the only road will be joining those bits together. 100mile bashers and some CX too.

    Mud clearance is key too, round here the bridleways get proper churned up and sticky..

    I love the design details and colour (orange) of the Bokeh, they really do market the frame well, and everything I read about this frame is very promising.
    I have seen one up close and it looks great, really very posh..
    Alu at this price does not bother me at all, as long as the ride feel and quality is there.

    The Gradient is equally nice, and Ti is a draw for me no doubt. I love the fact that stone chips are non existent on brushed frames. I want to try the Ti thing at some point. I really will cry if (when) my £1250 painted frame gets dinged.

    The geos are the same give or take, both 650b compatible, both offer the current ‘standards’ and both look great. Both review very well too.

    It comes down to boutique Alu orangeness or shiny titanium ruggedness.

    Views, opinions and suggestions welcome..

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    There’s a Gradient downstairs in the bike room, wireless SRAM, it’s bloody lovely.

    Open UP though?

    medlow
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    The Open is indeed a great looking machine. But price and I have done the carbon thing now, I am after some metal.

    Premier Icon fatmax
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    Toss a coin? They both look fantastic and get great reviews. I’d want to scratch my Ti itch!

    Premier Icon onewheelgood
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    I’ve been having a similar debate with myself. The Ribble CGR Ti also looks nice, but mainly because of those Zipp wheels. So I’m thinking that a Gradient with Zipp 303s and Di2 would be about right.

    Premier Icon notmyrealname
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    I’m biased, being a Bokeh owner, but I’d go for the Mason. Bloody brilliant bike.

    One of these days, when (if!) I can afford it, I’ll be upgrading it to a Ti Bokeh. I’ve no experience of the Reilly but it would need to be good to be better than the Mason.

    drlex
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    Don’t think you can go wrong with either of them. I have an Orange Bokeh and love it- I note that the Ti frameset at £3.5k is just a bit more than it cost me to fully build up the alu frame with Di2 Ultegra, dyno hub on handbuilts with supernova lighting, plus spare set of tyres, so I can live with the odd scratch.

    I would get a Fairlight Secan, and actually just have (full-build rather than frameset). Fits all of the criteria you list above, and has clearance for huge tyres (I’ve got 42mms on, and could go larger).
    Fwiw I also seriously considered the Bokeh and Gradient.

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    The Mason and Reilly are too expensive for me, but I do love the look of the Fairlight Secan.
    OP, I know that this is your shortlist but Shand Stooshie and Enigma Escape would be on my list too at the price you’re looking at.

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    I wasn’t in quite your position in terms of cash-to-splash, but glad I scratched my Ti itch with my Pickenflick … Frame still looks fresh despite 14 months and 6000km later. You can scratch your orange itch with some blingy hubs, bottle cages, bar tape etc.

    Plus get some skinwall tyres.

    Rides really well too.

    medlow
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    I have previously looked at the fairlight.. indeed a fab looking frame..
    It dropped off my shortlist due to me wanting something a touch lighter. Bokeh and Gradient are approx 1600gr for 50/52cm.
    I’m a light guy so I always aim for light bikes.

    Also the aesthetics of a chipped steel frame put me off. I had a steel 456 and where chain slap and stone chips started to go rusty, it looked pants. Avoidable to some extent but still an issue for me, especially on a £1100 frame.

    medlow
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    The pickenflick was on my shortlist for my current build.. the stand over is too much for my short 30″ legs.
    The geo is too tall.

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    I have been very pleased with my gradient, buying a second one for my partner this month. Build up with di2 1×11 hope tech cassette and USE components it’s 8.8kg without pedals, about 9.1kg as ridden.

    The photographer brought his Ti Bokeh to our photoshoot last month, absolutely stunning.

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    The quality of the finishing was exquisite and the colour is warmer than the usual Ti grey.
    Serious want.

    Premier Icon MoreCashThanDash
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    I’ve got it down to Gradient or the Enigma Escape. Not solved the money side of the issue yet though!

    medlow
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    Each time I make my choice, I go back to the other.

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    Each time I make my choice, I go back to the other.

    Have / can you test ride them both? It’s a lot of money to spend so worth being as sure as you can be …

    Premier Icon rOcKeTdOg
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    Mixed riding not continent crushing. Evening and weekend gravel, bridleway, singletrack and the only road will be joining those bits together.

    given that they are more road bike than singletrack weapon based on the above fact that you’ll be riding hardly any tarmac I’d choose….

    …an mtb

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    Another Gradient owner here. With two sets of wheels (some hope XC 27.5 and hope road wheels) I’m all set for pretty much anything the South of England can throw at me.

    Have had it for 9 months and it’s been awesome. Mark is also a top guy – great customer service and he’ll help you spec out what you want/need

    medlow
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    I currently run both a hard tail and a gravel bike. I enjoy the gravel bike far more and since getting one 2 years ago the mtb only gets used for mtb specific stuff.
    Gravel bike all the way..

    medlow
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    Yes Mark has been very helpful so far. So has Alex from Mason.
    I can’t get the time to visit unfortunately as I’m flat out with work and general life duties at the moment.

    I’m trying to arrange a visit with a mate who owns both in his fleet, to get a closer look. I’ve ridden his Gradient down the road only.

    Cheers for the insights guys.

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    Great looking bikes. I quite fancy that Bokeh.

    What others have clearance for wide tyres?

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    My brother has a Bokeh. I couldn’t believe it was worth the money until I rode it! I really want one, but I don’t think I’d get the use out of it. He rides his on the road in winter, and lots of park type singletrack in the summer. Seems to work well on both.

    giantlee75
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    A shameless plug – but I am currently selling a 57 2018 sram force gradient 😉

    Lee

    medlow
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    Lee, why are you selling, any issues with the ride or likewise?

    giantlee75
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    I stupidly also bought a ti Fargo – then the wife got made redundant …soooo !

    To be honest, I have ridden it a max of 10 miles, it’s such a waste – it’s a beautiful bike and rides like a dream – the frame is something I would happily hang on the wall, as well as being super versatile

    Lee

    medlow
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    So…. As expected.. I still cannot really choose between them.
    Nobody on here has a bad word against either, only good things about both.

    I’m slightly leaning over to the Reilly but only because of the most stupid of reasons.. I like brushed frames (my MTB is brushed Alu too). I guess that’s the problem with extremely close contenders, you really start to pick the tiniest of reasons to buy / or not buy which sounds so fickle.

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