i see these are discounted on Wiggle. The stretchy waistband ones look good, though not sure they’ll work with light knee pads. The all mountain ones look roomier. Thinking of ordering  a pair of each to try. Anyone got them and how are they, size and fit ?

Oh well, have ordered one of each anyway…

Haven’t got those new fangled ones as my old Gore ones are marvelous and refuse to die.

Sounds promising. Have a few bits of Gore stuff, incl 2 pairs of their Alp X 2 in 1 bib shorts and have always been impressed.

I have a pair of the trail light shorts and a pair of the all mountain ones too. If you’re going to wear knee pads, definitely get the all mountain shorts. The Trail light shorts are excellent though. The first pair of baggies I’ve worn that don’t move around or chafe while riding.

Good info, thanks. I use TLD Speed knees so was hoping they would be low profile enough to fit with the trail lights. How do you find they size up ? I have ordered size L , and am 34 waist. My Endura kit is M.