According to the BBC UKIP received 17% of the vote across England and NI.

I’ve just realised that last May UKIP received 23% of the vote in the England-wide non-metropolitan county council elections.

So yesterday’s result in fact represents a 6% swing away from UKIP compared to a year ago.

Going by yesterday’s English metropolitan council elections UKIP is in fact losing support, not gaining support. I’ve yet to hear anyone in the media mention that.

Of course it could be argued that UKIP is always likely receive less support in urban areas than in rural areas, I certainly think that’s likely.

But that is most definitely not the narrative that we are being sold, which is that UKIP has a particular appeal to working-class voters.

So either UKIP is starting to lose support or they enjoy more support in the traditional Tory shires.

spot on ernie. ukip supporters are too stupid to understand statistics though 😥 im off out of the country if we are going this right wing. and im taking my 2 degrees and small business with me

Crikey. UKIP is just a small party but yet all the main parties are bashing them like crazy while running like headless chickens. What’s the deal eh? Since they are not going to make any significant impact whatsoever why bother with them? If UKIP is losing support then it surely should not be a big deal at all? Yes? 🙄

Ed Miliband for PM … that will learn you. 😆

ernie_lynch – Member
But that is most definitely not the narrative that we are being sold, which is that UKIP has a particular appeal to working-class voters.

Now I sense elitism there … yes? 🙄

Remember, every second person you see’s IQ is under 100

It’s going to be interesting seeing the Euro results on Monday. We know about the locals. There are constituencies like mine, in a Tory area, where there was only a Euro election. Whereas local voting would interest more people, here only the motivated are likely to turn out, so that’s those still keen on the Tories and the protest voters. And here the only major protest option seems to be UKIP.

Junkyard – lazarus

Another gem
another moron who falls for it but lacks the ability to counter the point made

moved in and speak the language of people that are truly pissed off with platitudes, double standards and inconsistent policies.

Farage refuses to have his expenses [ and all UKIP MEP’s] audits despite hating waste and MP’s fiddling expenses and stealing from the public
He employs his wife as his PA despite hating croneyism in politics
He employs a german despite insisting jobs should be for British folk
He threw away the entire manifesto he signed dismissing it as drivel
he is a privately educated millionaiire – yes whata break from the rest eh
He left the Tories yet he speaks for the working man – i feel certain he says man and not people

His ability to use spin whilst claiming he is not like the rest is truly impressive
Either that or only dummies vote for them
I cannot decide which it is…mooman ? any views

Just the one really. The saying about empty vessels making the most noise ..

And maybe another about how ignorant people always resort to name calling when they struggle to make a sensible point.

But please carry on. Your posts/views on the subject are real comedy gold.

Just the one really. The saying about empty vessels making the most noise ..

That would be name calling but apparently you are against that

And maybe another about how ignorant people always resort to name calling when they struggle to make a sensible point.

I really wish you were aware of what you were doing because if you were it would be satirical genius rather than the abject stupidity it appears to be.
Nothing rational then to counter the claims/points I made then and only name calling?
Bless

So hypocrite who struggles to count above one then…your playing to all the UKIP stereotypes. Would you like to say something offensive about gays or Lenny Henry so I can get the full house

Please, the name calling is childish/silly.
Somebody as enlightened and superior as yourself surely doesnt need to resort to them .. unless ..

Loom mooman you cannot call folk names and then ask them to stop calling you names or you look like

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you cannot finish sentences 😉
I mentioned plenty of facts about your dear leader I am happy to leave the petty name calling and just return to the facts and I feel certain you will be happy to play to your strengths and engage 😛
so how do you defend this then

He employs his wife as his PA despite hating croneyism in politics
He employs a german despite insisting jobs should be for British folk
He threw away the entire manifesto he signed dismissing it as drivel
he is a privately educated millionaiire – yes whata break from the rest eh

You can defend it it and explain it I assume rather than just call me names whilst objecting to name calling as childish

I await your cogent pearls of wisdom safe in the knowledge you wont be avoiding the issue or name calling

UKIP have 145 of 3,263 council seats so far counted – 4.4% of total

Just curious – would that be across all of the election, or just the areas they had candidates. I’m assuming here they are small and new and therefore didn’t contest all possible places.

Tell me this thread is a spoof, please.

Tell me this thread is a spoof, please.

My thoughts, entirely. Anyway, since we are being silly, I think Farage may end up being the best Prime Minister we never had.

Junkyard – lazarus

If you are searching for a living saint then you are looking at the wrong place in politics so look elsewhere. In politics you are merely electing for the lesser zombie maggot as your Dear Zombie Maggot Leader.

Trying to find faults with zombie maggots I am sure you will find many regardless of their political affiliation. Zombie maggotx they got you! Yes. 🙄

Farage refuses to have his expenses [ and all UKIP MEP’s] audits despite hating waste and MP’s fiddling expenses and stealing from the public

If he is breaking the law then the law will deal with him otherwise you cannot accuse him of fiddling or stealing. Hearsay? Shit I thought I saw a flying pig yesterday which must be true. No? 😆

He employs his wife as his PA despite hating croneyism in politics

That’s his wife and she does not come even close to the definition of Dear Leader style cronyism. Wife being a PA being a crony for how much payment? Cummon! Cummon! (as in Peter Griffin expression 😆 ) Again, if employing her is against the law then charge him otherwise fair play.

He employs a german despite insisting jobs should be for British folk

In addition to the above answer of cronyism, if he employs a British you would have argued that he shows his true colour for hating the spirit of EU, now he is employing a German you say he is going against his word but isn’t UK still in EU? If so then there is nothing wrong with that. Make up your mind.

He threw away the entire manifesto he signed dismissing it as drivel

He can throw away or dismiss anything he wants as that his prerogative. You too can throw everything he asks of you if you wish. 🙄

he is a privately educated millionaiire – yes whata break from the rest eh

When is a politician cannot be a millionaire and privately educated? He is privately educated which means his parents paid for him not yours. Are you trying to say that his wealth is generated through peasant slavery?

He left the Tories yet he speaks for the working man – i feel certain he says man and not people

Leaving a political party for whatever reasons does not mean a person cannot represent other social class. Many were born with silver spoons yet they represents many classes of people in society. Are they wrong? The used of the term workingman or people well this only demonstrates that you are really trying hard to find fault in a person. If this is the case you will find plenty in all the politicians but the fact is that so long as the PR machine is writing the script using the right words you are duped. 😆 So how many times have you been duped? 😈

Definitely a spoof, Chewkw imitating Junkyard’s posting style is final proof.

Edukator – Troll

Definitely a spoof, Chewkw imitating Junkyard’s posting style is final proof.

It takes a long time to type the right views you know. 😆

Why can’t people just present one point at a time instead of putting out a list? I mean making others to argue point by point again … FFS! This is not a shopping list you know. 😈

p/s: I took time to type out long reply because there isn’t much going on the telly apart from footie final …

I dont read his posts so I will need to take your word for it….and i value your word as much as STW towers do

Perhaps you could rant about the BBC and tell us about Leicester in the 70’s for the full effect

Junkyard – lazarus

I dont read his posts so I will need to take your word for it….and i value your word as much as STW towers do

You know you are wrong … 😈

oldboy – Member

I think Farage may end up being the best Prime Minister we never had.

Zombie John Smith’s gonna mess you up for that

Northwind – Member

oldboy – Member

I think Farage may end up being the best Prime Minister we never had.

Zombie John Smith’s gonna mess you up for that [/quote]

OOhhh … Praiseee the Lord! (as the Warden in Shawshank says)

😆

Rab Butler – best etc, before your time. In case we’re starting a list.

I thought all three leaders were privately-educated millionaires, claiming between them to speak for most of the electorate. Except that UKIP cast a little doubt on that.

I dont read his posts …..

Just as well – because he comprehensively dismantles your argument sentence by sentence. I’ve never seen anything quite like it. It was a polemic massacre. There were times when I had to look away.

I thought all three leaders were privately-educated millionaires…

Ed Miliband privately educated ? I think Ralph might have had something to say about that suggestion.

Ah, my bad, as the kids say. He did PPE at Oxford, though. What an interesting Wiki page.

I thought all three leaders were privately-educated millionaires, claiming between them to speak for most of the electorate. Except that UKIP cast a little doubt on that.

Farage was privately educated and is a millionaire…no degree though he went straight to work in the world of commodities trade, a real job if ever there was one.

ust as well – because he comprehensively dismantles your argument sentence by sentence. I’ve never seen anything quite like it. It was a polemic massacre. There were times when I had to look away

Brilliant another laugh out loud moment for me there and of course it is the real reason I dont

Curiosity got the better of me he made some interesting points after his zombie maggot rant – WTF are they all about? It is not my view I am saying why he says and why he is a hypocrite so he somewhat missed the point.

Reading the Wiki page, it’s as though all his life he’s being groomed (in the old sense) to be a star of the Labour party, starting with a school hols job for Anthony Wedgewood Benn. How the other half lives, eh?

You should read CMD and nicks page as well then seeing as you have a new found lust for knowledge

None of the main political leaders [ including UKIP] had a life any thing liek what most of us would call normal

IIRC even Griffin went to private school and cambridge

it’s as though all his life he’s being groomed (in the old sense) to be a star of the Labour party

Not by his father I wouldn’t have thought. Parliamentary Socialism is arguably the most famous critique of the Labour Party.

Stating that there is no distinction to be made between Labor’s political and industrial leaders, this study illustrates the party as it is now and has always been—one of modest social reform in a capitalist system within whose confines it is ever more firmly and by now irrevocably rooted.

Ralph was not a huge fan of the Labour Party.

One’s enough for now, thanks. I’ll bet none of them have ever clocked in.

(edit) That’s the Lab shadow cabinet too.

I’ve just read ‘Protest Vote, how politicians lost the plot’ by Tim Newark. A lot of it is about current UKIP doings, but it covers Greens, BNP, and the Countryside Alliance too.

That’s the Lab shadow cabinet too.

Are you just interesting in slagging one lot off ? If you hate them information is irrelevant

I suspect few politicians have had what you would consider a proper job and the majority of those that have will be in the labour party

I’ll bet none of them have ever clocked in.

(edit) That’s the Lab shadow cabinet too.

Do people still clock on ? I had no idea. It shows how out of touch with reality working on building sites can leave you.

I’ll explain. I recently became curious about the protest vote and tactical voting generally as I believe it’s a significant change in politics happening now. I’m a natural Lib but Clegg selling the party’s soul to Dave was the last straw for me. When younger I was a Labour voter. But mostly I’ve been busy with the usual work and family stuff. And riding.

That Wiki page was an eye-opener.

this 70’s edifice of a gateway to the countryside is and has been populated by ex East Londoners guaranteed the life of green trees and open fields. They’re died in the wool ex Londoners and Essex types that have seen first hand the influx and settlement of immigrants into lands they once lived in

You’re about 25 years too late in dating the East End clearances. This “we all journeyed from the East End to the promised land of Essex” is an origin myth newer, but not much more historically accurate, than the Jews crossing the Red Sea.

“Into lands they once lived in”? Are you a student of Balkan politics with that rhetoric?

Front Nationale win the Euro polls in France, 25% of the popular vote 😯

The far left won the Euro polls in Greece with 26.5% of the vote.

The eurocrats in Brussels might well have built an EU immuned from the vulgarities of popular will, but I reckon their rubber stamp parliament might possibly cause them a few embarrassments.

Although probably not – EU parliamentary elections are designed not to cause any change. Which perhaps explains why some people vote in ways which they normally wouldn’t, ie, they understand the charade that is EU “democracy”.