has the inbred always been the same with very minor changes or more radical ones? is it possible to tell what year one is? when did they first start making them? any weak points? whats so great about them? approx weight please?roughly whats the sizing like ie small/generous?

come on i know there out there….

Have a look on the on one website regarding sizing- pretty generous

whats so great about them?

Bontrager + DeKerf, iirc. 😀

finds some old scaffolding
welds it together in shed
paints it with dulux from under the stairs
sells it cheap

rusts

paints it red to hide rust
sells it cheaper

brakes-i have to say i dont follow you?

>paints it red to hide rust sells it cheaper

Missed out:-

Doesn't paint it, markets rusty frame as "cool".

I think he means that it was a bit of a 'knocked together in a shed' type of fashion at first, painted white, being steel it rusts, so to hide this they offered it in other colours..

I had one of the early 853 ones back in 2001. It was an ace bike..

started making them around 1999
there's three different kinds I think, the original 853 although you'll be lucky to find one of them.
the first gen DN6 and then the one that's being made now.
buy a new one and there's no real weak points
what's so great? cheap, strong, fun.
dunno about the rest.

oh i see its relates to the fact there all white.but now coloured.
anyhow anyone want to answer the questions i actually asked… 🙄

My DN6 weighed about 5.1 lb (18").

is DN6 a type of tubing? ive never heard any one else quote it thats all?

"is DN6 a type of tubing? ive never heard any one else quote it thats all? "

DN6 is the part of the post code of the warehouse, see here

Anyone know how to distinguish which ones are for 100-130mm, 80-100, 63-80mm forks? (I know different generations fall into rough fork reccomendations, but not exactly)

its all on their website surely?

I believe a quick identification of the later models is done by seeing if it has 3 hose mountings on the top tube, more indepth: measure the top tube diameter

if it's 28.6mm diameter, it's 100
if it's 31.8mm diameter its 130

An don't forget the dropouts. These used to be a very nice sliding plate, a la Kona Unit, and in order to cut costs and weight are now track end style. I find it much easier to use the sliding ones.

There were also Ti ones, singlespeed with an appalling Bushnell EBB, 20 in each size made, and geared ones.

purchased one
rode one
broke one

I have a SS Inbred with the 'ace' Bushnell EBB, so much better than the PH "Simple' one!!
I think the original Inbred in 853, Ti and DN6 all for 100mm forks
The revised inbred DN6, (some in 853?) 100mm forks
Inbred 456 DN6 (and 853?) 100-130mm forks
Inbred sliding dropouts 100-130mm forks.

Cheap and cheerful, pretty tough, little but not too heavy, but oh so right ride…..

There were some new, anniversary, 853 ones too (I have one) that had the newer bridgless stays design (a small number of vertical dropout ones and a larger lot of sliding dropout ones). They came in various colours (mine's sand).

Is being an Inbred 'annorak' a good way to make friends?
"er hello…. I see you have the early 2002 frame, thats the one with the original sliding drop out and the second generation white paint…… Do you want to be my friend?"
🙂

IIRC…

1. Started as ss only frame with horizontal track ends and canti mounts, in 853.
2. 2nd generation was 'DN6' Chromoly
3. after a little while it became available with vertical dropouts (2001, my 1st)
4. and then Ti with vertical dropouts or EBB, as limited numbers
5. Then a DN6 EBB. I got on great with mine, and nearly regret selling it even after I'd crashed and bent it.
6. then things get more hazey as the 456 is launched (04/05 at a guess).
7. But then inbred become uprated to longer forks and the afore mentioned sliding drops – one frame for gears or SS. Other changes: larger diameter top tube and bridgeless chainstays. Heavier too, and IMHO, just not as good to ride. 2006?
8. An 853 version of this frame, 07? Summer season frames might have been started about this time too.
9. Then to save costs, the frames use a disc compatible track end for gears or ss. Prices became lower than ever. 07 too I think.
10. Think it's roughly the same today, but with more colours?

No inbred is very light, but I prefer the skinnier ones, and I have never had much trouble with rust…

Holy thread resurrection Batman!

5. Then a DN6 EBB.

Does anyone know what year the DN6 EBB inbred came out?

cheers 🙂

I bought my EBB in august 2003 a period I remember well

Lionheart still uses it

EBB I do not care what the above poster says they were brilliant in comparison my Cotic Simple is a pain in the butt