- George Osborne
Surely something like Anthony Wedgewood Benn is a little more highbrow?
C’mon Elfin, thats unfair!
now then a title like 2nd Viscount Stansgate – thats a proper example of feudalism being alive and well in the UK…
what, a millionaire, with one son being the heir apparent to the title, and the other an MP who became third generation of the family to serve in the cabinet, plus his Grandaughter ran as an MP as well..
now, if that ‘aint feudalism, I don’t know what is 😉Posted 9 years agoduntmatterMember
Watching Peter Mandelson toy with Osbourne on the documentary shown recently was amusing, and revealing. Irrespective of their policies or likeabilty, it was clear PM ran rings round GO. GO was left bemused, and not really understanding what had just happened to him. The guy is not the sharpest tool in the box.Posted 9 years ago
I wasn’t talking about feudalism as such; we know that the system we have is pretty much feudalism with just a thin veneer of democracy anyway. I was merely enquiring as to why a person’s name is important? IE, what’s so bad about Gideon?
Most of ’em are from privileged backgrounds anyway, so names like Rupert or Tarquin or Poncious aren’t really going to be a surprise, are they?
Not enough good Muslim names in British Politics if you ask me. Why not? Bloody racist is why not. It’s like they’re ashamed to be Muslim…
Time for a few words from our Glorious Community Leader:
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKP89Bi8EFM[/video]Posted 9 years agoelliott-20Member
Welcome back to the 80’s – up to our necks in shite and riots.
But seriously and I’m sure I will be opening myself up, Labour had reduced national debt and were continuing to do so until the global financial crisis hit the fan and we had to bail out the banks.
Interesting thing is that if we sold all the bank assets we own it would pretty much clear the debt. This makes for an interesting read:
So what ConDem and Osborn is doing with the with their cuts and VAT rise is beyond me.Posted 9 years agoRioSubscriber
what ConDem and Osborn is doing with the with their cuts and VAT rise is beyond me
I expect they’re trying to reduce the deficit, not the debt. Easy mistake to make – many politicians don’t understand the difference either.
Labour had reduced national debt and were continuing to do so until the global financial crisis hit the fan and we had to bail out the banks
Nulab ran with a deficit from 2002. Bank problems started in 2007 and didn’t really have an impact until 2008, and as you have said selling of the government’s stakes in the banks will reduce the debt but will not address the deficit.Posted 9 years agoZulu-ElevenMember
Its ideological. Destroy the public sector is the aim
And your belief in the public sector isn’t ideological then TJ?
perhaps the aim is to reduce the size of the public sector to one that can be afforded within national taxation revenues without additional borrowing… Now, you can either do that through shrinking public sector spending, or you can do it by increasing taxation, however sooner or later you’re going to hit the Laffer curve…Posted 9 years agoConquerorMember
Yeah I haven’t read every post on here
But a couple of things
google search “millionaires in cabinet” … turns out theres 23
so these are the people who know about debt management 😯
oh and now VATs gone up.. they can waste more of our money without actually reducing debt 😯Posted 9 years agochewkwMember
Too strong a public sector you are in deep shite – greedy buggers all round.
Too strong a private sector you are in deep shite too – greedy buggers all round again.
So no matter who you blame just blame it on yourself that you are shite (me too) because you don’t have enough money. Simple.
Take the shite and move on … life is shite and we are all wallowing in shite.
You are shite. Yes, you, you bunch of maggots. I step on you. Bow down to Dear Leader.
😈Posted 9 years agocinnamon_girlSubscriber
I swear to Gawd/Keith Bontrager, that if there was a group ride involving ALL STWers (inc all lurkers, trolls, attenshun whores, audi drivers, cheese nichers, the awesome & the banned), it would either usher in the New Golden Age of Consensus and Harmony or trigger another Civil War (dibbs on the roundhead body armour, please). Whatever, it’s got to be worth a try…
Perhaps CG could look into it?
Crikey, I would be terrified. Enforcements would be needed but if it took place at Swinley Forest, fortunately the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst (where officers are trained) is adjacent. I’m sure some charming officers could be on standby.
Oh wait – that wouldn’t work would it cos they’re mostly public school educated. 🙄
As you were you ‘orrible lot. 🙂Posted 9 years ago
Sandhurst? Hmm, let’s have a look at some of their Alumni:
Various despots and dictators
Seems ideal actually…
If we had a big meet at Swinley, would it turn into a proper fight, with knives and garrotting equipment? Punji sticks? Landmines?
Ooh I do hope so!
(Is quite excited)Posted 9 years agoahwilesMember
Woody – Member
Can I be the first to congratulate chewkw on his most excellent use of the word ‘shite’.
is it just me? or does chewkw finally seem to be making some sense?
no offense meant Chewie, your posts are almost always entertaining, and almost always completely baffling.Posted 9 years ago
There’s no point in me joining the Labour vs Tory debate, they are all crooks. But TJ, how can you say…
Low inflation, stable growth, low interest rates for over a decade
Low inflation? Yeah right… Gordon’s hand picked inflation measures. Remind me again, what happened to house prices during the Labour government? Did they experience low inflation? And did they play a large part in the financial collapse? And did the government do anything to intervene? And did Gordon Brown state ‘I will not let house prices get out of control’ early on in Labours first term whilst he was chancellor?Posted 9 years ago
Low and steady unless you wanted to buy a home right? In which case it was crippling? But it isn’t as if buying a home is something where inflation is a bad thing though, right? Because with low inflation, you will be able to afford to buy a plasma TV, as they are cheap nowadays, thankfully.
As I said, I’m not interested in Tory vs Labour, but if you want to compare it to the Tory housing bubble of the 80’s then the peak ratio of first time buyers wages to house price was 3.9 in ’88, and 5.4 in 2007. (Source http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/graphs-ftb-average-house-price-to-earnings-ratio.php)
Quite a difference don’t you think? And this after Gordon had said he would put an end to boom and bust, and stop house prices getting out of control.
But oh no, the financial crisis was due to the Americans. Not us. Oh no.
BTW – In the interests of fairness, I’m sure plenty of people did complain during the Tory bubble too.Posted 9 years agoInbred456Member
Just to stoke the fires a bit more, how many managers of private companies are rubbing their hands with glee that they will soon be able to pick up cheaply, some highly trained, highly motivated ex public sector staff to drive their businesses forward during this period of economic recovery?Posted 9 years ago
Thought not. Not one person I know in the private sector would consider employing ex public sector staff. So it looks like unemployment will remain high for quite a while. It’s like trying to mix oil and water. It’s ideological, it is just not going to happen.
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