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  • sighnbox
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    Hi every one been riding a long time 16 mile a day on a old kids cast off MTB 4 odd month ago I got a Specialized rock hopper SL Pro ….I ride about 5-8 mile a day at the mo on the road but if weathers ok I substitute that for about 10 mile on a old railway line trail or a mix of road and railway line……Having never had a half decent bike no idea on tires. (I have all so invested in a decent bike carrier so when i go climbing in wales and Scotland I can take it with me)

    I’m looking for a god all round tire the max my wheel can take is a 26 x 2.35 Ive been looking at the Maxxis High Roller 2 …..Kevlar bead 2.35 62a/60a compound TB will use tubes ….

    Its this a good all round tire and do people suggest anything else ???

    Thanks there

    Premier Icon Northwind
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    They’re good tyres but very grippy, quite heavy and also draggy- you’ll have more grip than you need for what you describe and it’ll be harder work to ride.

    Not really sure what to recommend instead, will you be doing any other offroad stuff? Something fast rolling and long lasting like a Kenda Small Block 8 might work well but if you decide to go off into the hills in winter they’d not be ideal…

    Premier Icon nedrapier
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    Generally, they’re all round!

    Oh, my aching sides etc.

    sighnbox
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    What about the Maxxis Ignitors 62a compound ?????

    Schwalbe tabletop 2.25 folding. Insane grip on wet roads / dry dirt and super fast rolling.

    Lethal on mud though 🙂

    sighnbox
    Member

    Sorting MTB tires out is more complicated then dam Formula 1 tires lol

    bigyinn
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    For the sort of riding you’re doing, I’d suggest some sort of semi slick tyre tbh. Anything else on road and old railway lines would be overkill.

    sighnbox
    Member

    Any suggestions on that as in make and name of tire ?

    Premier Icon brassneck
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    Specialised Fast Tracks are cheap (as quality tyres go, try not to gasp when you look them up), roll well and are usable offroad when it’s dry.
    I commute 15 odd miles on them in summer, about 90% road and don’t really feel they hold me back much on tarmac.

    chip
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    Traction is friction, so any tyre that provides more traction than you need will also be causing unnecessary friction slowing you down .
    Chunky tyres with tall well spaced tread although great at scrabbling for grip and shedding mud better (as a mud clogged tyre is effectively a slick ) do not roll well on hard surfaces, slowing you down.

    For what you describe I would try maxxis ardents 2.25 as a good size with enough grip in most conditions apart from if it gets real muddy but still roll exceptionally well even on Tarmac.

    sighnbox
    Member

    Yes from what I have read on the Maxxis Ardent that’s the one for an all round Tyre except mud what I don’t do anyway and the Kevlar 2.25 seams good its weather to go 60a or the dual compound 62a and 70a

    Premier Icon tmb467
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    60a will be more grippy surely?

    dual compound more hard wearing (marginally) with more grip on the edges

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    From reading this I would recommend something fairly basic and simple that has no special features, is not any wider than say 2.1 and is pretty inexpensive.

    So I would be looking at some of the Specialized Control tyres or the basic Maxxis tyres. Just go to a bike shop and buy some you like the look of. It just isn’t important for what you are riding.

    Also look at Maxxis Crossmarks. Fast rolling, grippy on hardpack and tarmac. Crap in the mud, but that doesn’t matter to you.

    For that kinda riding, my advice would be to get on CRC and pick something thats semi-slick and is cheap. On-One also have a load of cheap Schwalbe and Conti stuff at the moment – may be worth looking on there.

    Premier Icon cliffyc
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    Aren’t tyres all round….?.,that stated I’d be going for Maxxis Crossmarks,like cb motorsport,or a Kenda Small Block 8,like Northwind.As we all know there is no “Do it all” tyre.

    Premier Icon BillOddie
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    Small Block 8 or Conti X-king/Race King would be my shout for the riding described above.

    Premier Icon grey
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    Maxxis Larsen would be pretty good as well.

    chip
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    I have conti travel contacts on my hack and they are great on road, pretty bombproof puncture wise but only marginally better than slicks off-road.

    Bimbleing on the flat In good weather they would be fine.

    sighnbox
    Member

    Thanks guys lots good advice coming in yes the Ardents are probably over kill for what I do but want a good all rounder as in the spring, summer we go up to Scotland lots and across to wales so my bike will go with me and so will be riding tracks around there and don’t want to be swopping out/changing tyres all the time. (I’m using Maxxis DY NO MITES at the moment)

    crossmarks trhen. my summer tyre of choice, so fast.

    sighnbox
    Member

    Thanks guys can some one tell me why the Ardents would be no good ? as I have read there a brilliant all round Tyre (except mud) OR is it a case of there ok but people recommend the Maxxis Crossmarks and the kenda Small Block 8 more ????

    Premier Icon AlexSimon
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    I love Ardents. 2.25 EXO flavour. Use them front and rear all year around on 2 bikes.
    I have High Roller super tackys that I put on for uplift days.

    They’re not that bad in the mod and a great compromise, especially in the rocky peaks.

    Crossmarks didn’t have quite enough volume for me.

    sighnbox – Member
    Thanks guys can some one tell me why the Ardents would be no good ? as I have read there a brilliant all round Tyre (except mud) OR is it a case of there ok but people recommend the Maxxis Crossmarks and the kenda Small Block 8 more ????

    People will recommend whatever is working for them without ever mentioning the surfaces they ride on, the type of bike, size of wheel, or any of a dozen other factors that affect their choice. What works for one person on hardpack trail centres will be useless to another on roots and mud natural trails.

    Best example of user preference & tyre choice is Danny Hart riding one of the World Cup DH races last year in the rain with a dry tyre up front and a mud spike on the rear, ‘cos he rides on the back of the bike so much. I’d be dead in seconds if I tried that.

    I’d use an Ardent as a rear tyre only, but they’r perfect for others.

    toxicsoks
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    Spesh Ground Controls.

    sighnbox
    Member

    Well being Norfolk we don’t really have a problem with slate, sharp rocks like guys prob will in Wales and Scotland …So I prob don’t need the EXO side wall protection.

    Great point about where people are riding and how riding styles will affect Tyres as well…Nothing adventurous for me its just roads, old railways lines and Norfolk tracks…..but my long term goal is to mountain bike down Snowden and hopefully not kill myself trying (I will buy new suitable tyres for that)….

    I don’t take my good bike out in the wet I have a cheap bike for wet days………So really there is no answer its just a case of trying different tyres (like all mentioned above) that would suit my job and seeing what I like is there a lot of difference between 60a and 70a compound as far as wear on the road and hard tracks go ???? …..as in if I’m doing my 8 odd mile a day on the road what sort of millage would I expect to get from a 60a tyre over a 62a or 70a tyre ?????

    Its great people respond on the site with all the info Ive done so much reading on tyres and I’m finding really fascinating very interesting about all the different types, treads, compounds etc etc of tyres out there.

    I think you maybe over thinking the tyre issue for the sort of riding you do. Any fast rolling/XC orientated tyre is going to be great for you. i doubt you’d notice the difference in a ‘blind’ test doing the type of riding you mention.

    Get any of the ones mentioned above and ride!!

    sighnbox
    Member

    Ok guys just about to buy some Maxxix Ardents dual compound 62a and 70a folding bead unless any one else has some last min ideas ? I did like the look of the Maxxis crossmarks as well.

    For the riding you describe above, (railway line and road) the Crossmark will suit you better. The ardent will be more draggy. It’s up to you, just buy whatever and ride..!

    atlaz
    Member

    When I commuted by bike on a mix of road and gravel I used Halo Twin Rails. Cheap and very quick rolling. I went out to ride in the woods one weekend without swapping them out. They were awful.

    sighnbox
    Member

    Its deff got to be a all rounder as will be doing lot more tracks in the summer…..only other option is to get two sets one for winter road use and one for summer on the tracks

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    I’ve got a pair of Continental Mountain Kings that have had very little use and would be ideal for the sort of riding you are talking about. They are fast rolling and were great during the dry summer, but living in the north west that didn’t last long so they came off after about 10 rides. I could bung them in the post for not much money if you still haven’t bought any

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